Craziness around Cione Park

povertyjetset's picture

I'm new here, so Hi everyone.

Just thought I'd point you all to a relevant blog post I wrote this weekend...

A View of the Park

Also, is there an ORCA meeting soon? Do they have a website/mailing list?

lauraska's picture

This reminds me of the time

This reminds me of the time I called 911, on our very first night in our house, here, to report that a man was walking down Trenton Ave., shining his flashlight into the windows of homes.

The 911 operator argued with me about it. They've also argued with me when I called to report that a man had taken a sledge hammer and was using it to pry open the door to a temporary trailer that was at a construction site near our house. The cops arrived and didn't believe me until I pointed to the sledge hammer lying on the ground next to the half open door of the trailer.

dan's picture

Yeah, there's a lot of good

Yeah, there's a lot of good cops...
but the system is screwed up and there's some cops who are just looking to avoid work - like the two detectives who handled the robbery at my house.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

I read your blog on the

I read your blog on the incident. I don't believe for a second that this has to do with the police but the 911 workers.

I know a sergeant in 911, I can't tell you how many stories he has related on these intake operators. Not all of them but quite a high number are the laziest people; if they worked in the private sector, they would be fired.

povertyjetset's picture

@pure_fishtown - I agree. I

@pure_fishtown - I agree. I really couldn't understand how flippant and short the 911 operators were. I imagine it's probably difficult to be in that job for any number of reasons, but really, empathy and professionalism are probably a top requirement.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

The next time, ask for a

The next time, ask for a supervisor OR Call the 26th (215 686 3260) and tell them what happened when you called and the reason why it is an emergency.

jmminarik's picture

Pure_Fishtown wrote:The next

Pure_Fishtown wrote:

The next time, ask for a supervisor OR Call the 26th (215 686 3260) and tell them what happened when you called and the reason why it is an emergency.

It also helps to have a pen ready to write and when the operator identifies themselves, both write down their ID and say back to them "Yes Operator XYZ, I'm calling to report....". And follow up with Officer Velez at the 26th with as much info as you can. More often than not, I've relayed or asked about calls/situations reported here on this very website and there is no 911 log of the complaint.

-Joe

codergrrl's picture

Isn't the firehouse right

Isn't the firehouse right there?
Surprised nobody woke them up...firemen are livesavers as well.

Fishtown_Dave's picture

Not to de-rail your thread,

Not to de-rail your thread, but welcome to the board, povertyjetset. I read your blog and you look familiar for some reason. Are you the dude from illadates?

Lisa33's picture

Holy whoa, that is

Holy whoa, that is completely scary. I agree with PureFishtown and Joe that it's the 911 operators. You guys ought to file a report, and also file a roll call with the 26th district on Cione Park about the drug activity. You can even do this on-line. Tommy and I have done this numerous times for the schoolyard across the street from our house.

(ps. welcome to the board, pjset. :)

simmer's picture

Welcome to the jungle. It

Welcome to the jungle. It seems that there are more and more occasions of police negligence and it is getting scary and frustrating. Isnt there anything we can do? Its only a matter of time until they dont respond to someone and someone gets hurt. I would have A. gotten the 911 operators number or ID or whatever and then told them B. Since you are so uninterested, Ill be contacting the media to see if they might be interested. It is Sweeps month you know. Is there anyone on here, maybe Dan who can think of a way that we can talk to the 26th district about all this? Look I totally respect the police. They have the toughest job with the worst pay but we have to feel safe in our communities. I wish that we as a community could sit down with the 26th and go over the 911 calls and see why some werent responded to. I think that would be beneficial to both of us as we can see why they were unresponsive cause they may have been tending to something different. By the way, since getting my dog and a new camera I take my camera everywhere. Its like my wallet now. I would have videotaped this whole thing. Nothing would get them in action than if you said. hello 911 Im videotaping a........ right now, can you send the police over. Im sure they would move then.

povertyjetset's picture

Thanks for the welcome,

Thanks for the welcome, everyone. Yes, Fishtown_Dave, I'm the guy from Illadates. :)

This is all very good information, and I'm really glad you all chimed in. I'm certainly not one to look out for negative things, and I have great hopes for my new neighborhood (my wife and I bought our house a month ago).

One more short anecdote to relay:

I was hangin' on the stoop with my 16-year-old neighbor last night and telling her about what happened. She grew up there, and certainly didn't seem shocked. She told me where all the 'drug' spots are and what to look out for (apparently around Cione Park it's sketchy guys on bikes). Unfortunately, when I told her about my frustration with calling 911 she rolled her eyes. "Yeah, don't even bother calling those guys. They don't come to help us in *this* neighborhood unless someone gets shot."

I think we can change that, can't we?

jobber's picture

I think you need to call

I think you need to call 9-1-1- again today and ask to speak to a Supervisor--get the Supervisors name & badge number and tell them what happened when you called the other night. They will be able to find the person you spoke to based on the time you called.
ORCA's website is
http://www.olderichmondca.com/

When you call 9-1-1 and get an attitude like that you should immediately ask for a Supervisor.

YJB's picture

Best Cheap Date was brunch

Best Cheap Date was brunch at Ida Mae's and the 2007 Trenton Ave Arts Fest

Cause I was there yo!

dan's picture

povertyjetset wrote:"They

povertyjetset wrote:

"They don't come to help us in *this* neighborhood unless someone gets shot."

I think we can change that, can't we?

Please don't shoot anybody.

stein's picture

Quote:Please don't shoot

Quote:

Please don't shoot anybody.

i laughed.

but seriously, how are you going to get them to change? best bet might be to get one of the television stations to do an expose. the street administration might have just ignored it, but given his emphasis on fixing the crime problem i doubt the nutter administration would take the bad publicity sitting down.

anyone got some pull?

povertyjetset's picture

There are a few comments on

There are a few comments on my blog post about bringing this up with the Mayor (one of my blog readers sees him eating breakfast every day, though I don't recommend interrupting a man's morning coffee). Plus, I have a friend high up at the Inquirer and he knows about it and sent my post to the City Desk. So we'll see.

PattiMey's picture

povertyjetset wrote:There

povertyjetset wrote:

There are a few comments on my blog post about bringing this up with the Mayor (one of my blog readers sees him eating breakfast every day, though I don't recommend interrupting a man's morning coffee). Plus, I have a friend high up at the Inquirer and he knows about it and sent my post to the City Desk. So we'll see.

Sorry, but I do recommend interrupting his breakfast if that is the only way to get some extra police around here. For far too many years the River Wards have been ignored. We have never been a priorty as far as the police are concerned.
The mayor goes home at night to a safe environment. And , yes, if he calls 911 there will be 45 police cars there in seconds. We put him in office , he works for us. We deserve the same response. This was a good neighborhood . A safe place to live. When we screamed for help years ago we were told one car patrols the river wards , that is all that is needed. This one car was not able to PREVENT all the crime that has crept into this area.
Sorry you had to witness something like this but with time you will get use to it. ( sarcasm )
Welcome to the area and thanks for caring.