Are All Drugs Evil?

UFO's picture

Since the difference between legal drugs and illegal ones is fairly arbitrary, I'm wondering what people think is the greater issue? Is it "irresponsible" drug use? Is it the predatory nature of illegal drug sales? If all drugs were made legal and sold via the government, with purity checks and restrictions a la alcohol and cigarettes, it would completely alter the "drug culture"? Is that the way to go?

ofofhy's picture

A la A Brave New

A la A Brave New World?

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Pure_Fishtown's picture

Personally, I don't think

Personally, I don't think legalization is the way to go. I believe that robberies and quality of life crimes will still be there because the junkies need to get their fix. The cost of drugs will not go down because of legalization - corporate America still needs high quarterly profits.

I have no sympathy for drug dealers/suppliers/procurers; eventually, either directly or indirectly they are murderers.

UFO's picture

Well, Soma was the big BNW

Well, Soma was the big BNW drug, not all drugs. What I'm talking about is a little less dramatic, and involves no eugenics as a backdrop.

Larry99's picture

It's not the drugs that are

It's not the drugs that are evil - it's the addiction. It's quite obvious that making them illegal isn't eliminating addiction. All those nasty things like shady dealers, blight, drug turf wars, shootouts, violence, murder, underground trafficing, greed, etc, are the result of drugs being illegal. Personally, I think all drugs should be legal, perhaps semi-regulated and taxed by the federal government. The government could probably make enough money to erase the deficit with enough leftover to provide programs for drug education, addicition/abuse and rehabilitation. It would eliminate the temptation and greed for people to sell (or get involved with shady underground scrips rings). It might lead young people to aspire toward education and a legitimate career rather than a life of drug money profits for luxury cars, jewelry, cristal champagne that all ultimately leads to violence, death and demise

I know the bad things that happen when you use drugs and I'm not advocating drug abuse but I think the positives of legalization outweigh the negatives.

AM's picture

I have no problem with

I have no problem with making drugs legal. Addicts are going to be addicts regardless of whether drugs are illegal or not. People with addictive personalities will become addicted to something . . . drugs/alcohol/gambling. I have done a fair amount of reading on the topic of addiction and one thing is amazingly clear - individuals are responsible for their own behavior - you can't make someone stop unless they decide to stop. You can remove the dealers from the area and addicts will just find a dealer in another area. Not that I am condoning dealing - as a matter of fact I find the addicts and the dealers have one thing in common - selfishness. The addicts only care about feeling good for the moment and the dealers only care about the cash. I find dealers more distasteful merely because most don't pay for the damage they cause. Addicts usually pay with their lives. Legalization would eliminate these scum from profiting from the misery they contribute to. We could funnel the money raised from drug sales into programs for children and the elderly. Why waste it on people who contribute nothing to society?

dan's picture

This is a tough one for

This is a tough one for me.
Both my libertarian gut-instinct and our nation's history with prohibition say legalization (or at least decriminalization) is the way to go.
However, when I look at the sad experiences of the European cities where legalization/decriminalization has occurred, I think we're crazy for even considering it.
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Larry99's picture

for sure dan, it's a

for sure dan, it's a difficult debate. Cities like Amsterdam have their problems, but I don't think the violence, murder and blight are even close to what they are here. I attribute that directly to illegal dealing.

jason's picture

if I may interject something

if I may interject something that I heard somewhere, but have no proof to back it up. I heard that teenage drug use in places like amsterdam are significantly lower than in the states.

I think at the very LEAST you should be allowed to grow small quanities of marijuana for personal use.

AM's picture

I agree Jason. You would

I agree Jason. You would be hard pressed to find someone who broke into a car/house to get money for a bag of pot.

GuessWho's picture

i'm in support of

i'm in support of legalization, decriminalization, taxation & regulation.

(UFO..what does that make me?)

Durkin4619's picture

Brings me to the subject of

Brings me to the subject of the dealers. I don't think the additcs are any better. But these dealers don't even get high they sit back collect all this money while these kids are ODing and they get upset becasue thats less money they will make that week. If you walk around and I am not going to do the name game I know all the junkies in Fishtown becasue 2 are my siblings. But I'd say almost half of these kids were good kids, went to school and played sports in the neighborhood, good family backgrounds and so on. And it's realy sad their is no thing as a good junkie this I know but if their wasn't these dealers around dealing all this crap their would not be that many kids ODing in Fishtown or walking around with empty souls. Some have the mentality oh it's a script so it's ok not a big deal then bang they are hooked asap from the opiates. I am going on and on and honestly forgot what I wanted to say sorry, it's just such a messed up subject this drug thing becasue it is so out of control and their is no hope in a end around here. Thanks for letting me babble :)

jmminarik's picture

i'm in support of

i'm in support of legalization, decriminalization, taxation & regulation.

(UFO..what does that make me?)

I don't know about UFO's opinion, but I'd say it makes you pragmatic. However, I've a peeve with vice taxes since they rarely go to programs to "treat" the vicee's, so I'd call it quits at the normal sales tax.

-Joe
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"Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily. All other 'sins' are invented nonsense. (Hurting yourself is not sinful -- just stupid.)" L. Long

stephanie's picture

I'm in support of the whole

I'm in support of the whole shebang as well.. legalization, taxation, and regulation. Take the money from the thugs and place it into addiction programs, drug education, etc. If it's out in the open it's easier to spot a problem and fix it. Reduce crime, reduce violence. Only problem is, what are the dealers going to do without a career anymore? We're going to support them on welfare??

(Just kidding)

UFO's picture

Guess Who sez: i'm in

Guess Who sez: i'm in support of legalization, decriminalization, taxation & regulation.
(UFO..what does that make me?)

jmminarik sez: I don't know about UFO's opinion, but I'd say it makes you pragmatic. However, I've a peeve with vice taxes since they rarely go to programs to "treat" the vice's, so I'd call it quits at the normal sales tax.

I agree with Joe.

Further, the type of drug abuse we see in kids who drop out of school and society has little to do with the drug and everything to do with self-esteem, family issues, social problems, etc. They're not just getting high to have fun and relax; they're getting high to obliterate themselves. Oxycontin is not "fun". I've had to take it in the hospital, and I hated it because it makes you a zombie.

Psychedelics, on the other hand, are fun. So I'm told...