Drug Bust in Fishtown

towner215's picture

I hear people talking about this "BIG" prescription bust and say how nice the guy is and they feel bad ???????

Anyone explain this to me !

UFO's picture

Drug Bust in Fishtown

http://citypaper.net/articles/2005-03-10/cb.shtml

The woman in this article, Betty Adams, was married to one of the guys arrested for selling drugs.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

Here's the link for the

Here's the link for the Commonwealth's Attorney General's press release on Operation Fishtown Scripts along with mug shots.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press.aspx?id=1039

towner215's picture

That article was a piece of

That article was a piece of shat ..... That reporter might not want to come to fishtown for a another story again ... alot of people very piissed off ...... he threw fred adams under the bus without any knowledge of the case .... does that reporter know that fred adams might not get any jail time ?????

AM's picture

With all due respect, the

With all due respect, the natives know who the dealers are. It's common knowledge. You don't even have to be a part of the drug subculture to have this knowledge. As I have stated before, just because the dealers are someone's cousin/brother/father/husband and/or friend doesn't make it right that they contribute to the drug problem in this area. What amazes me is how defensive people are of these guys. It's time to smell the coffee - - these people are killing OUR CHILDREN. Everyone knows that old heads don't pop pills - it's the kids who do. The young dealers are selling coke to the old heads. The old heads are selling pills to the kids. When did this become an acceptable way to live around here? You can't beg the police to crack down on dealing and then complain when they bust your buddy and/or relative because you think he is nice guy. Dealers need to be stopped. They need to do hard time. They need to be taken off of our streets, away from our children. As far as anyone getting thrown under a bus - what about the poor families who are left to deal with the addict these dealers helped create? I have to admit I don't have much sympathy for addicts - but what about their parents, their children and everyone else who pays the price for their habit?

stephanie's picture

So if you don't get jail

So if you don't get jail time it doesn't count? Someone educate me here on this..

UFO's picture

Quote from Towner215: "That

Quote from Towner215: "That reporter might not want to come to fishtown for a another story"

At least, without a nametag, a press pass around his neck, and a loud speaker shouting "I wrote that story about Fred Adams!"

If you think the story was wrong, write a letter to City Paper and tell them why. Veiled threats of violence don't really work...

This is the article in this week's City Paper about Fred you'll be responding to: http://citypaper.net/articles/current/cb2.shtml

AM's picture

Quote from Towner215:

Quote from Towner215: "alot of people very piissed off"

Are they angry that the names of dealers (no matter what their level of involvement was) were published in the paper...or because the paper focused on the accused's wife rather than the accused (it seems to me that the only one who got thrown under the bus was her which I found cruel)...or are they angry that although the accused knows the pain of losing a child he chose to become involved with drug dealings which are slowly killing other people's children ...

Quite frankly I found the article absurd on many levels... residents stating they were "shocked". Would they say that with a straight face to someone who has lived in this neighborhood for their entire life..... Outsiders might believe it, even some newer residents might buy it. But lifers - PLEASE!

I want to know why people accept dealers here, they socialize with them, they invite them into their homes knowing full well what they are and what they do......

ofofhy's picture

Defintiely not a lifer here,

Defintiely not a lifer here, but I was shocked. Not shocked at the fact that this type of thing goes on, but by the apparent ages of the alleged dealers. When I looked at the mug shots, I was expecting to see people in their 20's. I guess I need to re-evaluate my mental image of the "typical" drug dealer/user in the neighborhood.

towner215's picture

That strap who wrote the

That strap who wrote the article made him look like he was the head of a cartel or something .... the only reason he called him out was that the tourney bares his name .... why not write about the other people who got arrested ????

towner215's picture

Oh by the way ... what

Oh by the way ... what threat ??? It's only advice .....

AM's picture

Doesn't the sports

Doesn't the sports tournament bear his son's name and celebrate his son's life? I hope so. I hardly think that his father's behavior should be any reflection on the tournament or for that matter, his wife. For years this has been a positive event in our community. I don't think that will change.

No, he wasn't the head of a cartel but they were involved in dealing drugs. How does one justify that? Why aren't people angry that the men accused were involved in this at all, thus creating bad publicity for a tournament created to honor Mr. Adams' dead son and causing his wife obvious pain and humiliation. Does she need these problems? Does she need to be put under the media's microscope? NO!

I agree they should have mentioned everyone who was arrested. That, however, doesn't justify him being involved (if he is convicted). Why isn't anyone angry that THEY were dealing drugs in our neighborhood? If we gave the same "advice" to the dealers that you are giving to this journalist, it might be a little more productive.

stephanie's picture

As a relatively new resident

As a relatively new resident here I'm shocked and appalled by the whole situation. The very neighbors you expect to be helping this fight against the drug problem here in Fishtown are the ones selling it. Now someone is here defending him because he "wasn't the head of a cartel or something". Pathetic.

And that "strap" had a great news story. The other wives weren't written about "cleaning up the drugs in the neighborhood".

stephanie's picture

Sorry for the repeated

Sorry for the repeated posts! Kept getting an error message and so tried again... Dan??

dan's picture

It's possible the error

It's possible the error message was related to a theme problem which is now solved.
I delete your repeats.

towner215's picture

Point is ... no reason to

Point is ... no reason to call out him and not everyone else .... worse part of it was throwing betty jane's name around ... a drug dealer is a drug dealer but to throw someone under the bus without being convicted is just moronic ... if they have the evidence LOCK HIM UP FOR AS LONG AS YOU ARE ALLOWED but lets wait and see ....
drugs are such a hott subject people dont think before giving their opinion ...
I think a women like betty jane deserves alil respect and not to have her name thrown around like she was a dealer .....

UFO's picture

I always wonder how people

I always wonder how people can be married to someone and not know that they are involved in nefarious activities and, in the case of drug dealing, not notice the extra cash in the household...I'm not saying that Betty knew, because I don't know her, but it seems like lots of people knew her husband was up to something. Why didn't they tell her, so that she wouldn't have to go through this? I know that the old-school Fishtown motto is "Mind your own business" but, if her husband is guilty, look what it did to Betty. I'm sure she would have liked to know.

GuessWho's picture

Quote: Towner says: Point is

Quoteys: Point is ... no reason to call out him and not everyone else .... I think a women like betty jane deserves alil respect and not to have her name thrown around like she was a dealer .....

there IS a reason to call him out: as the "figurehead" for an annual sports tournament that promotes anti-violence, he should be held to a higher standard. it taints the tournament, is a mockery of his son's death & sends a message that it's ok to be involved in dealing..."let's play ball!!".
i didn't think the article was derogatory of betty at all.

Quote from UFO: "I always wonder how people can be married to someone and not know that they are involved in nefarious activities.."
the same way they are oblivious to infedility: they don't want to see it / can't accept it. "ignorance is bliss."

rtsaidred's picture

Let me start by saying I

Let me start by saying I don't know any of the people involved in the arrests (except by reading about them in local papers)...
Have these people been convicted? The neighbors might "know" what's going on, but until I see a conviction, I still believe people are innocent until proven guilty. Call me crazy or naive....

Mamide3's picture

I can't speak for people,

I can't speak for people, but I can speak for myself. I am angry because, he is accused, not convicted. So why runi his name and torture his family more than they already are?

And FYI, I was shocked and he is my father.

Mamide3's picture

What do you mean lots of

What do you mean lots of people knew he was up to something? Up to what? Was he convicted already? You people need a life

Mamide3's picture

Just to correct your

Just to correct your "figurehead" labeling of my father..He is not!!! The tournament was and is run by my aunts, mother, and friends. He has nothing to do with the tournament, except the name he gave to my brother, which has nothing to do with anything going on.

GuessWho's picture

the article says "Every

the article says "Every year, Adams throws out the first pitch at the tournament named for his son". apologies if this statement is inaccurate (i shouldn't believe everything i read).
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towner215's picture

rtsaidred ~ exactly ......

rtsaidred ~ exactly ......

AM's picture

Quote from Mindyobuz: I am

Quote from Mindyobuz: I am angry because, he is accused, not convicted. So why runi his name and torture his family more than they already are?
And FYI, I was shocked and he is my father.

I agree that there is no reason to drag someone's family/wife into a situation as I have stated many times in this thread and I think that the person who made the "anonymous" call is a coward who sought merely to hurt your mother (She lost a son - how much hurt can someone take?) As far as shock - I wouldn't be shocked by ANYONE selling drugs in Fishtown - call me a bit hard if you will - but I wouldn't be shocked by a 90 year old grandmom selling drugs here - it is everywhere and has been for years. I guess I don't shock anymore . . .

UFO's picture

If you say he's innocent,

If you say he's innocent, that's good enough for me.

stephanie's picture

So we are to wait for the

So we are to wait for the indictment or actual conviction before we can say what we THINK about the situation?? Is that how it works around these parts? We have to shut our eyes and ears to this because he's a good guy? Who cares that he COULD have been perpetuating the drug problem and profiting from drug sales?? We should mind our own biz because we don't want to upset the wife or son or neighbors?? Because there is no conviction yet??

Well, it IS my biz because I have a young daughter who lives in this neighborhood!!! And I'll be damned if I will keep my mouth shut because a wife and son are humiliated by the situation. We are not to blame for that. There IS a question of guilt here because of the arrest. We don't know who is guilty or not but we DO know that those charged LIVE here and had families and children and that is just a disgrace. To see our own even CHARGED with this is upsetting enough!

Oh please Fishtown natives, tell me how I'm supposed to act in the face of drug dealing since I am handling this wrong? If we don't know them I can say something, right? But right now I should keep quiet so as to not bring further embarrassment or focus on this situation?

How about this..I'll bring the topic over to phillyblog then. Is that better? :)

rtsaidred's picture

I think we should be able to

I think we should be able to talk about it, but without the assumption that the accused are guilty.

Mamide3's picture

Well, Stephanie, do what you

Well, Stephanie, do what you got to do and I am not his son, I am his daughter and I'm not humiliated. I simply have no patience for people who stick their noses in things they know nothing about, except what they read in the paper, which I don't know if you know this.. is not always truth.
So you can continue to express your thoughts, it is your right, but I will also continue to express mine...so mind your business. And spend your free time watching over your own.

AM's picture

I have no problem discussing

I have no problem discussing the topic, regardless of who the accused are and please keep in mind that there are plenty of "natives" who turn in their neighbors, relatives, etc. for drug dealing every day and nothing is ever done about it. I agree that it is everybody's business. I do, however, believe that the recent article was tasteless. Not because it brought attention to the drug problem/dealers/accused but because its focus was solely on the wife of the accused. You cannot control another adult's behavior - spouse or not. I also find it repugnant that the "anonymous caller" didn't have the nerve to call the police when she supposedly "knew" what was going on but had no problem shifting the focus onto one of the accused's wife. Although I certainly don't think we are to blame for the family's situation, showing empathy for their pain shouldn't be viewed as a "stamp of approval" on dealing or "keeping quiet" about dealing. I merely think the focus should be on those accused, not their families.

rtsaidred's picture

I completely agree, AM!

I completely agree, AM!