New presence at York and Aramingo...

qbert4578's picture

Anyone else notice the new(ish) guys (homeless?) staked out on the divider at the intersection of York and Aramingo? The one guy is pretty young, thin, and has a sign with "help a vet" on it. The other guy is older, heavier, and is usually staked out on a milk crate. The intersection is starting to remind me of the one down on Columbus Blvd., down by the Home Depot/SuperFresh shopping center.

I always give something to that one dude down on Columbus for some reason... some days he's barely standing, looking like his chin is about to touch the ground, but he always catches himself somehow. I've also started giving food and/or drink to the one guy that's around Wa-Wa/CVS/Rite Aid on Aramingo. He calls me his angel and asked me what I was getting for Valentine's Day. I replied, "Probably nothing!" and he told me told come back to see him and he's give me something. Perfect! ;)

Please note: I'm not trying to make this into a debate about whether or not they should be there and/or if people should be giving them stuff... just making note of it and wondering if anyone else knows any of their stories, etc.

Ftown66's picture

The ones at columbus blvd

The ones at columbus blvd are heroin addicts. I wouldn't give them shit! I can tell by the way they dip out as they are sitting there. Thats what your seeing when you say his chin almost hits the ground. I have seen the younger guy at york at the cvs and wawa also.

Kat's picture

qbert4578 wrote:Anyone else

qbert4578 wrote:

Anyone else notice the new(ish) guys (homeless?) staked out on the divider at the intersection of York and Aramingo? The one guy is pretty young, thin, and has a sign with "help a vet" on it. The other guy is older, heavier, and is usually staked out on a milk crate. The intersection is starting to remind me of the one down on Columbus Blvd., down by the Home Depot/SuperFresh shopping center.

I always give something to that one dude down on Columbus for some reason... some days he's barely standing, looking like his chin is about to touch the ground, but he always catches himself somehow. I've also started giving food and/or drink to the one guy that's around Wa-Wa/CVS/Rite Aid on Aramingo. He calls me his angel and asked me what I was getting for Valentine's Day. I replied, "Probably nothing!" and he told me told come back to see him and he's give me something. Perfect! ;)

Please note: I'm not trying to make this into a debate about whether or not they should be there and/or if people should be giving them stuff... just making note of it and wondering if anyone else knows any of their stories, etc.

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"The world is divided into people who do things and people who get the credit. Try, if you can, to belong to the first class. There's far less competition." - Dwight Morrow, 1935
"Some people will believe anything if you whisper it to them."- Louis B.

I saw that Columbus Boulevard guy and his buddy sitting at the outside table at that McDonalds last Spring...counting a wad of cash - I am not kidding - about 3 inches high and laughing their butts off. Every time I see the guy I want to smack him.

lrl's picture

It's definitely tough - one

It's definitely tough - one side of me knows that some of these "homeless" are really scam artists. The other side knows that some people really do need help and it's our responsibility to help them.

qbert - i like the fact that you asked "does anyone know their story?". I believe that is indeed the perfect question to ask. Why? Because I've learned some very valuable lessons from my father.

I admire my father for his convictions and I want to share some tidbits about him. My father is a deeply religious man who strongly believes that helping others is the most fulfilling thing to do with your life. He lives across the country but every time he visits, he's always struck by the homeless in Philadelphia and he goes out of his way to understand and help. This man is on vacation, visiting me, and he will literally go to homeless shelters or walk around in the overpass areas where the homeless congregate. That is how he will spend at least one or two days of his visit. And he talks to the people and listens to their stories and always finds quite a few that move him to help in some way. He's not a rich man by any means but he tries to help and he refuses to provide money. Toothbrushes, toothpaste, socks and underwear are the items that are most often requested and given (the dollar stores are a great invention for someone like my father!).

The circumstances that drive people to become homeless are too long and varied for this forum, but it's definitely not all drugs, or crime, or scam artists. I just wish sometimes I had the same convictions as my father and would take the time to listen and find out which ones are worth helping, and which ones are scamming.

If anyone really does know the story on these guys, I would like to hear it.

dan's picture

Yes, I've noticed these guys.

Yes, I've noticed these guys.

fishtown63's picture

You can go on to youtube put

You can go on to youtube put in The Homeless Project you can find out about some of the homeless in phila also the two men on Columbus blvd where on ch 12 for a T.V. interview the show was good I think if you look for it on the comp you will find it I forget the name of it sorry but I did think the same thing about them being heroin addicts.but glad to say it was not the case at all I think the older mans name was Bill I will also look to see if I can find it for you

jbette01's picture

lrl wrote:\ The

lrl wrote:

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The circumstances that drive people to become homeless are too long and varied for this forum, but it's definitely not all drugs, or crime, or scam artists.

Funny you mention that, I was just at a talk the other night sponsored by the free library. A professor @ upenn who crunches lots of homelessness data said that >80% homeless have a physical handicap, a mental handicap, a drug dependency or more than one. doesn't mean those things cause one to be homeless, but definitely an effect.

lrl, you should take your dad to one of the one book philly events this year. The soloist is a fantastic book, and obviously many of the events are geared toward music and the social/economic/personal topic of homelessness. http://libwww.freelibrary.org/OneBook/obop09/calendar09.pdf ...its a nice change of pace to have the city interested in 'your' niche cause!!

Becky's picture

MiNDTV screened Charlie and

MiNDTV screened Charlie and Guy, a short film about the two men on Columbus Blvd at this year's Philadelphia Stories event. It's online here: http://www.openfilm.com/videos/charlie_and_guy/

And not to talk up MiNDTV too much (Wade Bloggs works there, and Dan is on the station's community advisory board), but they presented at the library tonight as part of the events jbett01 mentioned. There were some interesting facts about homelessness presented: http://www.mindtv.org/cgi-bin/display_asset.fcg?member_id=1776;ordinal=1029;file=vodind.ttml;style=mind

jmminarik's picture

Becky wrote:MiNDTV Near as

Becky wrote:

MiNDTV

Near as I can tell from http://www.comcast.net/tv/tv-listings/ MiND is on channel 35.

Kat's picture

fishtown63 wrote:You can go

fishtown63 wrote:

You can go on to youtube put in The Homeless Project you can find out about some of the homeless in phila also the two men on Columbus blvd where on ch 12 for a T.V. interview the show was good I think if you look for it on the comp you will find it I forget the name of it sorry but I did think the same thing about them being heroin addicts.but glad to say it was not the case at all I think the older mans name was Bill I will also look to see if I can find it for you

That was an amazing film. What is so sad is that he is so intelligent and understands that he could do so much more with himself, but chooses not to.

eggs00's picture

The older heavier gentleman

The older heavier gentleman who sits on the crate is George. He is a good man and not a scam artist. He has been homeless going on 10 years now. If you have basic manual labor to do he will gladly do some work for you.

george's picture

eggs00 wrote:The older

eggs00 wrote:

The older heavier gentleman who sits on the crate is George. He is a good man and not a scam artist.

Thank you.