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levans's picture

My friend was walking home just in the past 5 minutes and a group of 4 boys jumped him on Marlborough between girard and thompson - luckily he got away although he was hurt pretty bad. if anyone sees them please try to get an id - apparently they were last seen going up thompson street.

tudor's picture

Wow, hope your friend could

Wow, hope your friend could get his injuries taken care of all right. If you and/or someone you know can go back to the scene soon, see if anyone around there saw what happened. Take care.

rtsaidred's picture

horrible. hope your friend

horrible. hope your friend is okay.

brooke's picture

Sorry to hear that.

Sorry to hear that. Hopefully each one of them will get their butts kicked even worse.

stillLife's picture

any update on this? How is

any update on this? How is your friend? Did he know these kids? Old Kids? Young kids?

stein's picture

I don't know, but this

I don't know, but this morning i just started beating up every kid I saw. some adults (teachers or something, i dont know what their deal was) seemed to be pretty upset over near adaire but i gotta stay safe, you know?

jason's picture

what are the laws on just

what are the laws on just always carrying around a baseball bat?

codergrrl's picture

Baseball bats are the weapon

Baseball bats are the weapon de jour, most townies almost always have an old Louisville slugger very close to the front door.

george's picture

I met the person who was

I met the person who was jumped and attacked tonight. Really nice, gentle guy who was simply walking home. His girlfriend (the one who posted here) was a combination of livid and confused by it all.

Also turns out I know the girl who posted here a couple of weeks ago about being mugged at her door after being dropped off by a cab. She works at JB's...fairly new to to town. Her Dad was here the next day, furious and protective and wanting to take her back somewhere more civilized. Can you blame him?

The other night, a former workmate of one of our bartenders stopped by for a nightcap and friendly conversation. Five-minutes later he was beaten, bloodied and robbed on Frankford Avenue.

Oh, and Carl? The guy murdered in his home a while back---his body discovered amid the howls of his poor, distraught dog?

Knew him, too.

Along with the thoughts of the night Hector was jumped, kicked, and beaten by three worthless, useless scumbags running up Thompson...all the endless litanies of people with much worse tales...with all that you endure and try to stay optimistic. God knows there's a TON of great people here who have survived and thrived against far worse. True salt of the Earth.

And yet..

Last night on a cigarette break at work, I see a car dragging a noisy, full, wet bag of trash underneath...it breaks free at Girard and Frankford...and explodes vomiting plastic cups, beer cans, diapers, glass, and soggy paper everywhere on a windy night. Garbage being blown in every direction.

And for the first time ever I just stood there watching it happen and felt...nothing. Like it was just more trash piled upon what was already there.

There's just a level of sickness here lately that I'm having a hard time dealing with. Or maybe it's not a sickness at all---maybe this really is "normal" here.

But I'm hoping it's not.

(sorry for the rant...it's been a bad week)

stein's picture

no offense dude, but i dont

no offense dude, but i dont think i ever want to meet you!

Quote:

I met the person who was jumped and attacked tonight. Really nice, gentle guy who was simply walking home. His girlfriend (the one who posted here) was a combination of livid and confused by it all.

Also turns out I know the girl who posted here a couple of weeks ago about being mugged at her door after being dropped off by a cab. She works at JB's...fairly new to to town. Her Dad was here the next day, furious and protective and wanting to take her back somewhere more civilized. Can you blame him?

The other night, a former workmate of one of our bartenders stopped by for a nightcap and friendly conversation. Five-minutes later he was beaten, bloodied and robbed on Frankford Avenue.

Oh, and Carl? The guy murdered in his home a while back---his body discovered amid the howls of his poor, distraught dog?

Knew him, too

george's picture

stein wrote:no offense dude,

stein wrote:

no offense dude, but i dont think i ever want to meet you!

Tell me about it. I'm thinking "Monastery" at this point. In Antarctica.

Larry99's picture

First off I'm sorry this

First off I'm sorry this happened and I hope everyone is OK.

Unfortunately, Fishtown today is much more an extension of center city than it used to be. With gentrification and the new bars, coffee shops, condos, lofts, restaurants, the art and music scene, it's become a destination of sorts. Unfortunately, all that activity attracts new criminals and thieves, not to mention young local thugs who are unhappy with the changes, which sounds more indicative of the incident described here. Fishtown is definitely not as safe as it used to be.

So let's not forget that we live in the big city. Most here are good people but the small percentage of scum bags can make it miserable for the rest of us. It can be rough at times but every urban environment has it. Don't give up. Please pick up the trash, look out for your neighbors. We still have a great community here. It's different than it used to be but it's still great. We've had a lot of changes over the years but the community and neighborly camaraderie has been the one constant. I'd hate to lose that.

And finally, be careful out there!

rtsaidred's picture

George, so sorry you are

George, so sorry you are having such a crappy week. Hang in there!

th's picture

codergrrl wrote:Baseball

codergrrl wrote:

Baseball bats are the weapon de jour, most townies almost always have an old Louisville slugger very close to the front door.

By the front door seems like a good idea - I'd try to figure out a way to hide it though. I hate being visually reminded of security while trying to relax at home. Also, guns freak me out. I just figure I'm the one who is gonna wind up shot. Or the house will be broken into while I'm not home and it will get stolen.

The only thing I've been able to come up with to make me feel a little safer (after we got robbed) is keeping a nice heavy lead pipe behind each bedroom door. You never see them, but they are always there. And if your not home, they wont get stolen and be floating around on the streets like a gun.

dan's picture

codergrrl wrote:Baseball

codergrrl wrote:

Baseball bats are the weapon de jour, most townies almost always have an old Louisville slugger very close to the front door.

When we moved into our house, it was empty, except the previous owners left behind a dresser in each bedroom and a baseball bat by the door.

Kat's picture

george wrote:There's just a

george wrote:

There's just a level of sickness here lately that I'm having a hard time dealing with. Or maybe it's not a sickness at all---maybe this really is "normal" here.

But I'm hoping it's not.

(sorry for the rant...it's been a bad week)

George my friend, I totally understand. It really stresses me out - especially with our kids growing up here. Each morning up 95 I pass a cool farm that is set way back with a big field in front of it... and more often than not wish we could live on a farm like that somewhere it is quiet and safer than the hood. These days, I think about it all the time. I have had a pretty crappy couple of weeks myself. Not to say I don't love my house and my neighbors, but I could sure use some peace and quiet and piece of mind.

Hang in there. Don't let the stupid idiots get you down.

2014 susquehanna's picture

dan wrote:codergrrl

dan wrote:
codergrrl wrote:

Baseball bats are the weapon de jour, most townies almost always have an old Louisville slugger very close to the front door.

When we moved into our house, it was empty, except the previous owners left behind a dresser in each bedroom

I'd feel a bit uneasy having someone dress me. Shoe removal after backbreaking day would be nice.

Kat's picture

2014 susquehanna wrote:dan

2014 susquehanna wrote:
dan wrote:
codergrrl wrote:

Baseball bats are the weapon de jour, most townies almost always have an old Louisville slugger very close to the front door.

When we moved into our house, it was empty, except the previous owners left behind a dresser in each bedroom

I'd feel a bit uneasy having someone dress me. Shoe removal after backbreaking day would be nice.

I just spit water on my computer....that was HILARIOUS

dan's picture

2014 susquehanna wrote:I'd

2014 susquehanna wrote:

I'd feel a bit uneasy having someone dress me.

You commoners have no appreciation for the finer things in life.

Jeffro's picture

This is awful. I can tell

This is awful. I can tell you it happens a lot less here than it did in previous years, especially since I was a teenager. I doubt it will ever completely disappear from the neighborhood. As someone who teaches teenagers every day, I can also tell you this happens in Bridesburg, Port Richmond, Kensington, Juniata, and all other neighborhoods in the city. I wouldn't give up hope though. Keep picking up your trash. Keep calling the cops. Keep looking out for your neighbors and posting things here when you see them. Keep being vigilant and outspoken. That kind of concern can change a neighborhood for the better on a mass scale if everyone keeps at it. I'm sorry folks are experiencing this.

netable's picture

And here I always felt like

And here I always felt like I lived on the Safest Street in the Safest neigborhood' =(

I am so sorry for everyone's "attacks",

I can remember just a few years ago', I was talking to George' outside his house' and my Johnny comes walking up to me full of Blood' it was SCARY and after the initial Panic Feeling' I wanted to KILL those kids' and trust me' they are so friggin lucky that I did not run into them that night' because I don't think after I was done with them that they would ever be able to Lift their hands to harm another soul (I know, this is not the right way, however' when someone hurts your child, it takes you to a place that you never been before')

I tried to do and show my Johnny the right thing, I immediately took him to the 26th district and I left there more LIVID then when I arrived' those cops act like it was "Normal" and I was overreacting'

So what do you do? What do you teach your kid if he is attacked? Crawl up in a ball and cover his head? and let people continue to kick and beat on him? and hope they get tired or someone comes and chases them away?

I know Im probably gonna be crucified for this, but I told my Johnny if it ever ever happened again, you grab 1 of them, just one, and bite them like it was a piece of meat and your life depended on it, and don't let go until the others' back up and you can run away........ Hopefully he will never be attacked again........

All these stories are scary' and so much I take for granted, like I actually walk my Dogs all hours of the night' maybe I should take a taser or something with me, just in case........

Larry99's picture

Jeffro wrote: I can tell you

Jeffro wrote:

I can tell you it happens a lot less here than it did in previous years, especially since I was a teenager.

You really think so Jeff? I don't know if I'm just getting older, less naive or whatever but I sure don't feel as safe thesedays walking around late at night, etc as I did 10-15 yrs ago. It's not so much neighborhood kids that scare me but, as I alluded in my post above, it seems there are a lot more criminals coming in from outside. Of course this is just my impression.

marmkid's picture

Larry99 wrote:Fishtown is

Larry99 wrote:

Fishtown is definitely not as safe as it used to be.

oh really? i had always heard the opposite

i have only been here 3 years, and thankfully have not been involved in anything like this
sometimes the walk from the train can be a little sketchy though, so it is definitely not too surprising to hear things like this

its definitely a nice neighborhood and hopefully will continue to improve like it has recently

th's picture

netable wrote: I know Im

netable wrote:

I know Im probably gonna be crucified for this, but I told my Johnny if it ever ever happened again, you grab 1 of them, just one, and bite them like it was a piece of meat and your life depended on it, and don't let go until the others' back up and you can run away.

There is no such thing as "fighting fair" when you are attacked. I think you gave him some good advice.

jmminarik's picture

Larry99 wrote:Of course this

Larry99 wrote:

Of course this is just my impression.

There's a few factors in your life different that 10-15 years ago...like 4 young women to take care of and some level of disconnect from today's youth culture.

UFO predicted these kinds of changes happening as the neighborhood changed based on her experience with Fairmount. Especially the intrusion of 'foreigners' since their fear of having the snot beat out of them has not only diminished, but the dirtballs from elsewhere are now syncing up with the dirtballs from here as well. Integration isn't a 100% positive thing.

Larry99's picture

marmkid wrote:Larry99

marmkid wrote:
Larry99 wrote:

Fishtown is definitely not as safe as it used to be.

oh really? i had always heard the opposite

i have only been here 3 years, and thankfully have not been involved in anything like this
sometimes the walk from the train can be a little sketchy though, so it is definitely not too surprising to hear things like this

its definitely a nice neighborhood and hopefully will continue to improve like it has recently

I think it used to be safer for residents who lived in the neighborhood. It was a very provincial atmosphere where everyone knew and looked out for each other. If someone didn't know you or you were an outsider, that's when there might have been trouble. That provincial attitude is definitely changing for the better. However, I feel there are additional crimes being introduced to the neighborhood as a result of gentrification or whatever you want to call it.

stein's picture

Quote:and more often than

Quote:

and more often than not wish we could live on a farm like that somewhere it is quiet and safer than the hood.

I know different people want different things out of life, but I grew up in a place similar to this and I never want to live outside of a big city again. Living someplace quiet and safe is fine, until you get bored. and you will get bored.

marmkid's picture

Larry99 wrote:I think it

Larry99 wrote:

I think it used to be safer for residents who lived in the neighborhood. It was a very provincial atmosphere where everyone knew and looked out for each other. If someone didn't know you or you were an outsider, that's when there might have been trouble. That provincial attitude is definitely changing for the better. However, I feel there are additional crimes being introduced to the neighborhood as a result of gentrification or whatever you want to call it.

hopefully any new crime being introduced by newcomers will lessen as will the existing crime by the existing residents and we can all meet at that happy place in the middle

lauraska's picture

I would just like to specify

I would just like to specify that it is highly unlikely that the new folks who are moving into the area are the ones who are committing the crimes. What I do think is that existing residents from neighborhoods bordering ours...neighborhoods that are not as safe as this one has been...are noticing that nice restaurants and shops are coming to the area, and houses are selling for more money, so they assume that everyone moving here must be "rich." It happens anywhere that gentrification takes place...the opportunity for a "score" arises. But please...let's not get into a "oh this is all the new people's fault" type discussion about this issue. It's really not productive.

Larry99's picture

marmkid wrote:hopefully any

marmkid wrote:

hopefully any new crime being introduced by newcomers will lessen as will the existing crime by the existing residents and we can all meet at that happy place in the middle

just for the record, NEVER did I say that new residents were committing crimes and I did not mean to imply that the crime was the fault of new residents. Please re-read my first post in this thread. Lauraska also hit on the general idea of what I was trying to say.

jmminarik's picture

lauraska wrote:"oh this is

lauraska wrote:

"oh this is all the new people's fault" type discussion about this issue. It's really not productive.

No, its not. But its crucial to understand why those of us who grew up here 'safe' may feel less safe. The new folks aren't going to be hanging out on street corners chasing away folks they don't recognize.