Octuplet mother

kdubs215's picture

Does anyone find anything wrong with a single mother of five using fertility drugs ? And Should she profit ?

PattiMey's picture

Go after the doctors.It

Go after the doctors.It would never have happened if not for them. As long as tax payers are not footing the bill its her business what she does with her body.Unfortunately it will be taxpayer's money footing the health bills or at least part of it. She will only profit if people show interest in her choice to be super mom. IMO What happened to screening the mother before using any fertility procedures ?

biggeo's picture

how much does the dept of

how much does the dept of welfare pay for each child, maybe the doctor who did the fertilization should pay support cause after all the did help bring these kids into the world

kdubs215's picture

I think there should be a

I think there should be a law on who gets teh use of fertility drugs . THis women didnt need these kids and now i KNOW we will b paying for them

lauraska's picture

Well the state couldn't have

Well the state couldn't have paid for the IVF treatments, right? Most health insurance companies do not cover IVF..it costs almost 15,000 per try, I've heard. I believe she got a settlement from an on-the-job injury which paid for most of that. My concern is that she has some serious mental issues.

MichelleLynn's picture

I don't know alot about this

I don't know alot about this story, is there a link to it??

frankdatank's picture

There are plenty of women in

There are plenty of women in Philly that have 8 kids and no father around and no job. She just popped them all out at once. I saw that she had a 165k settlement for a "riot injury" that happened at the hospital where she used to work at.

lauraska's picture

frankdatank wrote:There are

frankdatank wrote:

There are plenty of women in Philly that have 8 kids and no father around and no job. She just popped them all out at once. I saw that she had a 165k settlement for a "riot injury" that happened at the hospital where she used to work at.

Yeah except that now she has something like 14 kids, because she had other multiple-births before this one.

frankdatank's picture

Oh my, 14?? I really hope

Oh my, 14?? I really hope she doesn't get a reality show.

Kat's picture

frankdatank wrote:Oh my,

frankdatank wrote:

Oh my, 14?? I really hope she doesn't get a reality show.

She is doing the "circuit" now and on numerous news shows. She has 6 other kids and no father. She lives with her parents and her mother actually said she would move out when the babies got home because of her mental issues and her father is going back to Iran to work to pay for the kids...meaning this lady will be home with 14 kids under 10 (I think) herself. She lives in WHittier which is not a great place to live in CA - lots of drug and gang activity. If she has mental issues, I believe it was the doctor's malpractice for doing the IVF. He saw dollar signs. I fell so sorry for those kids but am mad that the system let this happen.

rtsaidred's picture

she sure seems to have

she sure seems to have mental issues. 14 kids with no job or obvious means of support? it's sick. those poor kids. And the obvious, bad plastic surgery is disturbing as well.

Spiral's picture

Here is a link to a recent

Here is a link to a recent story about her:

She has 14 kids, no income and has set up a website seeking donations. Much like the cats of Lamu island, she takes paypal, but also takes credit card. She currently recieves $490 a month in food stamps, so yes the taxpayers are supporting her.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/12/octuplets.mom/index.html

And here is another:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29147091/

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state’s Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed

The Suleman octuplets’ medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby’s hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. Suleman said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

brooke's picture

There aren't "plenty of

There aren't "plenty of women" with 8 children anywhere, by the way.

Sterilization for this woman comes to mind.

Kat's picture

Spiral wrote:Some of the

Spiral wrote:

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. Suleman said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

She should have been getting treatments at the mental hospital she worked at.

netable's picture

My Concern is that what

My Concern is that what Clinic or Doctor would give this Looney Tune treatments?

These treatments are for people who can not make a Baby the Old Fashion Way' Not for some idgit who cannot support a child.

I just never understood how someone can bring a human life into this world and not be able to support it.

I personally would NOT be comfortable on getting pregnant without being secure financially' (its your responsibility as a parent to be able to put a roof' food and and provide finances for a college education) I just think it is very SELFISH' for people to have children and NOT be able to take care of themselves let alone an Innocent Child'

And it's ridiculous that she was able to use her settlement money for these treatments while she is receiving funds from the Government' to take care of her other 6 children', they should stop her checks immediately' and if she is unable to provide for her children' then put them up for adoption, so other Families' who truly understand the meaning of being Parents' can provide these kids with the life that they deserve......

I know it sounds harsh' but if you have a Child' then you should do everything in your power to give it the best life possible, there is not a more IMPORTANT job then being a Parent

I'm afraid for those children' like what if her' Copycat fantasy, get rich fast scheme, because I am a reality TV star, doesn't work out and she truly has to provide not only financially but emotionally, these poor kids don't have a chance

I'm sick and tired for supporting others' children, there are so many Couples' who want children desperately and cannot have them' I say that if you cannot support your own children, then YOU should not have them.

dan's picture

I'm still at a loss as to

I'm still at a loss as to why the government can have behavior expectations of people on welfare, but not banks on welfare.

brooke's picture

LOL. It's like why white

LOL. It's like why white collar crime isn't viewed nearly as terribly as crimes committed by people who aren't as intelligent/rich.

Ftown66's picture

I seen her interviewed the

I seen her interviewed the other day and she's not wrapped to tight. There defenitally is some psychological disorder going on upstairs.

george's picture

Ftown66 wrote:There

Ftown66 wrote:

There defenitally is some psychological disorder going on upstairs.

Downstairs, too.

PattiMey's picture

The more interviews this

The more interviews this woman gives the more I think the doctor and the fertility clinic should be held responsible.
If this woman suffers from any type of mental illness it should have been detected during the screening.

Kat's picture

PattiMey wrote:The more

PattiMey wrote:

The more interviews this woman gives the more I think the doctor and the fertility clinic should be held responsible.
If this woman suffers from any type of mental illness it should have been detected during the screening.

What screening!!!?

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PattiMey's picture

Kat wrote:PattiMey wrote:The

Kat wrote:
PattiMey wrote:

The more interviews this woman gives the more I think the doctor and the fertility clinic should be held responsible.
If this woman suffers from any type of mental illness it should have been detected during the screening.

What screening!!!?

My point ! Screening is one of the first steps that should be taken at any fertility clinic.

lrl's picture

Serious question: If the

Serious question:

If the father / sperm donor is a close personal friend (as stated by this woman), does he have any rights or responsibilities for caring for these children?

I understand that anonymous donors don't have rights or responsibilities under in vitro fertilization. But I'm assuming since he wasn't anonymous that he went to the fertility clinic with her and was somehow involved in the misguided decision to have 14 children. He didn't just make a deposit, collect his $10, and waltz out the door.

AND, why isn't the media or public berating him as well? He's also at fault (in my opinion).

PattiMey's picture

lrl wrote:Serious question:

lrl wrote:

Serious question:

If the father / sperm donor is a close personal friend (as stated by this woman), does he have any rights or responsibilities for caring for these children?

I understand that anonymous donors don't have rights or responsibilities under in vitro fertilization. But I'm assuming since he wasn't anonymous that he went to the fertility clinic with her and was somehow involved in the misguided decision to have 14 children. He didn't just make a deposit, collect his $10, and waltz out the door.

AND, why isn't the media or public berating him as well? He's also at fault (in my opinion).

Great question. I pray the answer will be that he along with the doctor and clinic will be held accountable for these precious lives.