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jlking's picture

I had a tree planted in front of my house, and then water started to come into the basement. The cheapest solution is to cut the tree down and put concrete over the tree pit again. I don't want to do this, so if anyone has the ability/desire to take the tree out, you can have it. I would also pay something to have this done instead of killing a tree.

neilpuck's picture

How big is the tree? When

How big is the tree? When was it planted?

Nunzio's picture

I'm a little skeptical that

I'm a little skeptical that the water is coming from the tree pit, JL. I would look into the problem a little more. A tree pit is way down on the list of things that would cause water to go into the basement.

codergrrl's picture

I mentioned this when the

I mentioned this when the joy of new trees was overflowing on this forum, and was kinda poo-pooed about it. I was told the "tree people" said they planted different kinds of trees that aren't supposed to get so big, (I have my doubts about that.)
I had a tree put in by the city, many moons ago...
It made the pavement uneven, and unsafe, and eventually, the roots broke into to water main and flooded my basement. (Not to mention, it grew so high I had to have a guy come out and clean the gutters every other month, it seemed.)
I don't care what those horticultural people say, this neighborhood is rife with underwater streams, and things tend to grow alot bigger than they should.
Then, it cost a small fortune to have a guy come out with his chipper and get the thing out, plus cement the pavement. Add all that to the cost of new PVC out to the street, and I think you can see where I'm going.
(Unless you have a new little baby tree, than all of the above is moot.)
The coolest thing about it, though, before we had it removed, was it was so big, you could open the third floor window, and you were virtually inside of it,,and one night I opened it up to look out at some scuffle or something, and realized there were birds roosting in it...so that was cool, I was watching birds sleep...but other than that, a giant pain in the a**.

Larry99's picture

codergrrl wrote:I was told

codergrrl wrote:

I was told the "tree people" said they planted different kinds of trees that aren't supposed to get so big, (I have my doubts about that.)
I had a tree put in by the city, many moons ago...

the species of a tree and it's root system, size, etc, is what it is. I don't think a japanese lilac or a hawthorne (two of the tree types recently planted) is going to grow the size of a large oak or whatever was in front of your house before just like a chihuahua isn't going to grow to the size of a saint bernard. Extra water from an underwater stream is more likely to kill a tree not suited to a very wet environment before it makes it bigger.

It's obvious and unfortunate that many moons ago the city didn't do it's homework when it came to all this. It's prcisely why the hornicultural society is involved today.

jmminarik's picture

Larry99 wrote:. It's

Larry99 wrote:

. It's prcisely why the hornicultural society is involved today.

I thought the horniculture society was being figurative with their interest in wood. Go figure.

Larry99's picture

...oh nevermind.

...oh nevermind.

codergrrl's picture

Larry 99, I appreciate your

Larry 99,
I appreciate your input....
but when the guy from Fairmount Park commission came out to look at the tree, (which they put in but refused to remove), he said he had never seen that species (whatever it was) get so large.
I don't wish any ill on tree growers, believe me, it just never seemed fair that once they put them in, they washed their hands of them... just an aside regarding my expericence with trees.
P.S...the flowering cherry trees on Gaul street are pretty, and don't get very big.

Nunzio's picture

codergrrl wrote:Larry 99, I

codergrrl wrote:

Larry 99,
I appreciate your input....
but when the guy from Fairmount Park commission came out to look at the tree, (which they put in but refused to remove), he said he had never seen that species (whatever it was) get so large.
I don't wish any ill on tree growers, believe me, it just never seemed fair that once they put them in, they washed their hands of them... just an aside regarding my expericence with trees.
P.S...the flowering cherry trees on Gaul street are pretty, and don't get very big.

I can see your point, coder. A big 'ol tree can definitely lay the smack down on underground water pipes, wires, and gas lines. I shouldn't assume the tree JL had planted is one of those smaller ones that are so common today. But, if it is, I think it would be worthwhile to look at other possibilities, so she doesn't get a false sense of security in the event it isn't the tree afterall.

Fortunately for us, our basement is dry. But, in the last few years, we've had a few instances of water. One was due to a clogged soil line at the pavement, which was easily fixed by removing the vent cap and using a long handled plunger. Another was due to the neighbor's clogged drainspout, which spilled all the runoff from her house into the alley that separates our houses (her roof area is about 1,000 sq.ft). And the last one was a broken drain hose coming from the washer.

george's picture

May I suggest an

May I suggest an ecologically sound solution that could easily be planted in front of every home?

yeah yeah's picture

Some times there is a small

Some times there is a small crack in the front of your homes foundation but since the whole area up front was covered in concrete, the water ran to the street. When the tree people cut a large hole in your sidewalk to plant the tree, all of a sudden water can get in in large enough quantities that it makes it into your basement.

Just what I heard and it makes sense to me. Just like gutters that drain out to your yard are supposed to go out around 4' before discharge so that they are far enough from your foundation that it does not leak back into your home.

jbette01's picture

yeah yeah wrote:Some times

yeah yeah wrote:

Some times there is a small crack in the front of your homes foundation but since the whole area up front was covered in concrete, the water ran to the street. When the tree people cut a large hole in your sidewalk to plant the tree, all of a sudden water can get in in large enough quantities that it makes it into your basement.

I was under the impression that most basements in ye old Fishtowne will take on water at some point due to elevation and lack of proper rainwater drainage.... No? Perhaps I fabricated this to make myself feel better.

jlking's picture

Exactly, I think that is

Exactly, I think that is what happened. There is probably an existing small crack in the foundation, but it didn't matter before. Now that there is a big hole in the sidewalk, water is rushing in. So, I can have the front of my house dug up and the foundation fixed, or just take the tree out. Since the house has been here and been fine for 100 years, I'm assuming the crack is relatively harmless. The water coming in could make it into an issue though, so the tree has to go.