If you were Mayor....what would you cut?

DNA's picture

It is clear that the Mayor needs to cut the budget and/or make the delivery of services more efficient. So if you were Mayor what hard choices would you make?

If I were Mayor, I would do away with subsidizing the housing of hipster artists who live in the Coral Street Art Center or at least put them to work on community projects.

I would eliminate recycling, come on we all know it eventually ends up as trash any way.

What would you do?

dan's picture

I'd drop the city off at

I'd drop the city off at qbert's house.

netable's picture

Lets see,. First and

Lets see,.

First and Foremost, that Latica Lady ADIOS

Then Half of the Water Company,

Most of L&I, only keep the ones who actually work

Methodone Clinics

Section 8 Housing, (I Raised 3 kids on my own who aren't mine' if I can take care of others kids and keep a roof over their head then so can the Women who choose to have children) Except for handicap and Elderly People of course However, I think thats federal funding right?

There are others; Tons' just want to leave my office now and go Home

Happy New Years!!

2014 susquehanna's picture

I'm with you on the Coral

I'm with you on the Coral Street Arts House. Some of those people are real freeloaders. Always with the eating out and hanging out in bars drinking premium beer. If you can afford that...why should the rest of us subsidize your lazy good for nothing ass.

Not talking about you, New Kenso. You deserve to live there and I'm jealous.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

If I were mayor, I would get

If I were mayor, I would get rid of .....

Mayor McNutter and all the new heads that he hired.

I would reassign Latrice Bryant to the water department as a ditch digger.

kdubs215's picture

Anyone see that movie DAVE ?

Anyone see that movie DAVE ? When he brings his friend in to go over the books and he finds all the waste . Thats what we need a outside CPA with no ties to the hall and ill bet my checking account he or she finds millions in waste

Ftown66's picture

My hair since I have a full

My hair since I have a full head. Ha! Ha! Nutter you mr potato head looking freak.

tudor's picture

netable wrote:Half of the

netable wrote:

Half of the Water Company,

I like that idea. What about the Gas Works too while we're at it?

jmminarik's picture

1/2 of the new idjit mayor's

1/2 of the new idjit mayor's staff..every non-employee (ie. consultants) hired by the mayor's office.

amberstreet's picture

cars for any of them, use

cars for any of them, use philly car share : )

msarak1979's picture

I would defintly would give

I would defintly would give up on the methadone clinics why should we be supporting the junkies?All it is is a legal high.Let them all get the high they want and overdose.Then we wont have to pay for their welfare too!

Jabara Fractus's picture

I wish there was a way to

I wish there was a way to eliminate all the negativity.

dan's picture

do we even know if the city

do we even know if the city pays for the methadone clinics?

Jabara Fractus's picture

I think streamlining is

I think streamlining is key.
The merging of the Fairmount Park Commission with the Recreation Department is one recent example. Makes me wonder if there are any other city departments that can be combined to increase efficiency. Unfortunately, moves like this could potentially mean layoffs.

It would be nice if the ZCC could move a little faster with updating our zoning code so we can eliminate a lot of the current need for the ZBA. I don't know what the ZBA's operating budget is, but there has to be a lot of administration that goes into supporting this entity.

This is more long term but what about requesting some "bail-out" funds from the fed be directed to updating Philadelphia public buildings to be more energy efficient thus saving on operating expenses?

The short term solutions are tough - how do we get over the current fiscal year "hump" without cutting services permanently? Even temporary cuts can result in a permanent one as priorities change. Long term solutions are almost always better. Its too bad that more of the federal dollars appropriated for the "bail-out" couldn't be directed toward some sort of loan system to help cities get past the first year or two. Financing would be contingent upon cities' long-term planning goals to streamline and generate revenues from public works projects. Of course, the logistics for oversight and administration would be a real nightmare.

I hate to brink back annoying political rhetoric from this past year, but the scalpel versus the hatchet analogy is appropriate. It seems like the current mayor's administration either doesn't feel there is enough time to "surgically" trim city services/government before the budget shortfall results in insolvencies or they just simply panicked (who wouldn't?). The scalpel is the more appropriate tool but it's tedious and time consuming.

It's a very tough question and I don't envy anyone that is charged with solving it.

snailgem's picture

i'd close some libraries.

i'd close some libraries.

qbert4578's picture

dan wrote:I'd drop the city

dan wrote:

I'd drop the city off at qbert's house.

Um... no.

"The world is divided into people who do things and people who get the credit. Try, if you can, to belong to the first class. There's far less competition." - Dwight Morrow, 1935
"Some people will believe anything if you whisper it to them."- Louis B.

Nunzio's picture

tudor wrote:netable

tudor wrote:
netable wrote:

Half of the Water Company,

I like that idea. What about the Gas Works too while we're at it?

Hey hey, easy now.

yeah yeah's picture

Leaf collection from private

Leaf collection from private property.

Any type of "consultant", there are plenty of smart people in government.

lauraska's picture

*sigh* ALL section 8 is

*sigh* ALL section 8 is federally funded...it's a federal program. Most cities have their own housing departments, which manage city housing projects. The section 8 program is a voucher program whereby people can live in places outside of the projects and the federal government pays all or part of their rent. When I worked in child welfare, the general sentiment was that city housing was preferable over section 8 because the feds always paid the vouchers late and tenants were having to deal with their landlords every month about the late payments. But then again, I don't assume that anyone WANTS to live in low income housing, city funded or otherwise.

I don't think it's a great idea to get rid of public housing when we are in an economic downturn, but that's just me. It's silly how logic can be.

Anyway, I agree that we should be looking into how to streamline the city agencies. There seems to be alot of waste, either through excess/lazy employees or money that seems to go to projects that never happen. Also, while this isn't a cut, I think the city needs to collect on all the fines/taxes/tickets/etc that have gone unpaid for years and years. It is absurd that properties are 20 years behind on property taxes. Seize them and sell them with the profit going to the city. End of story. Deadbeat landowners shouldn't be allowed to be scofflaws and they shouldn't be allowed to contribute to blight by sitting on empty/run-down properties.

2014 susquehanna's picture

lauraska wrote: I think the

lauraska wrote:

I think the city needs to collect on all the fines/taxes/tickets/etc that have gone unpaid for years and years. It is absurd that properties are 20 years behind on property taxes. Seize them and sell them with the profit going to the city. End of story. Deadbeat landowners shouldn't be allowed to be scofflaws and they shouldn't be allowed to contribute to blight by sitting on empty/run-down properties.

Nutter said they were doing the above during his address to us at the High School. I have my doubts that those city employees responsible for collecting these monies are suddenly going to start doing their jobs. I did some research on the property tax issue last year and was sickened by how many of my neighbors had not paid their taxes in more than a decade. Yet they will be the first to complain about the lack of city services.

dan's picture

While I have no doubt that

While I have no doubt that most of your neighbors who are listed as delinquent in their property taxes truly are delinquent, I would also like to caution that the records aren't always accurate.

We were incorrectly listed as delinquent on our property taxes and it took dozens of phone calls and letters and three or four trips in person - over three years - to get it corrected.

codergrrl's picture

I don't believe methadone

I don't believe methadone clinics are owned by the city.
They are owned by health care facilities or physicians, and they bill the federal government, not the city.
Medicaid is a federally funded program, like food stamps, run by the feds. (Junkie medical cards)
The city hasn't had a city owned hospital since it closed PGH, way back when.

codergrrl's picture

P.S. Drop the D.R.O.P.

P.S.
Drop the D.R.O.P. program.
It wasn't intended to be used the way it is being used, or by the people, (City Council members) who are using it.

Trixie's picture

I think the city should cut

I think the city should cut back a little on tourism projects and focus on making the city wonderful for those of us who live here, not just visit. Now I said cut back - not stop completely.

Also why don't the Eagles, Flyers, 76er's and Phillies organizations donate some money to keep the libraries open? One fund raiser game from each organization could go really far. I mean they have nights for different diseases to raise money which is great but hey why not give back to the city, hmmmm sound good to anyone? Since afterall we have to pay an arm and a leg to see a game anywhere now. Now that is not directly under the mayor's job but he can initiate the idea with the owners.

And why do rich people have to have a big expensive money wasting Gala to give money. Why do we have to entertain and feed someone to get them to support a cause. JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY BITCH!!

netable's picture

I know people who actually

I know people who actually went to shelters' to get a voucher for section 8, and the few I know, live in a wayyyyy better house then mine, that I actually work and pay for, imagine that a single Mom who works and pays her own bills "A" Ok, Not all section 8's are located at 25th and Somerset, tons of them in NE, Tacony, Port Richmond and Yes even Fishtown =)

Im not saying there shouldnt be housing for TRUE NEEDY Candidates' yes there should, but for people who just live a life on welfare' dont do anything to better their lives it totally is BS' they have more of an advantage then Most people'

And the people I know, who are section 8 landlords LOVE being section 8 landlords, they also get their rent'

And the section 8 tenants that I know, LOVE being sec 8 tenants, because they can afford their peticures' and sculptured nails' their kids wear Tims and Armani Exchange'

It must be only the people I know who luck out with the reaping benefits,

Personally' I would be ashamed of myself if I lived in subsidized housing and welfare' for years and years and years' I wouldn't feel good about frauding the system' or being a bum, but hey thats just me

netable's picture

lauraska wrote: Anyway, I

lauraska wrote:

Anyway, I agree that we should be looking into how to streamline the city agencies. There seems to be alot of waste, either through excess/lazy employees or money that seems to go to projects that never happen. Also, while this isn't a cut, I think the city needs to collect on all the fines/taxes/tickets/etc that have gone unpaid for years and years. It is absurd that properties are 20 years behind on property taxes. Seize them and sell them with the profit going to the city. End of story. Deadbeat landowners shouldn't be allowed to be scofflaws and they shouldn't be allowed to contribute to blight by sitting on empty/run-down properties.

Does this also apply to those poor fortunate souls who live on welfare all their life and dont have the means to pay their property taxes?

Or is it just the ones who work 2 jobs to make ends meet and just cannot afford to pay their taxes and make the devastating decision of keeping their electric and gas on first and opt to have a lien put on their home, because they are too Proud to be a welfare drain

Pure_Fishtown's picture

They could do away with the

They could do away with the PHA, IMO. I worked with a woman who made really good money and I mean really good money. She lived in one of PHA's houses which only cost about five years ago, $30 a month rent. PHA was always doing work in the house, new windows, doors, painting, etc. And, she received a monthly voucher for help in paying utilities. She did have two children but both were adults who didn't live in the house. And, she drove a brand-new SUV replacing it every two years.

Do I believe that she should be living in this type of home? No. Do I believe that subsidized housing is needed? Yes, for those who really need help.

lauraska's picture

netable wrote: Does this

netable wrote:

Does this also apply to those poor fortunate souls who live on welfare all their life and dont have the means to pay their property taxes?

Or is it just the ones who work 2 jobs to make ends meet and just cannot afford to pay their taxes and make the devastating decision of keeping their electric and gas on first and opt to have a lien put on their home, because they are too Proud to be a welfare drain

Are you serious? I don't know too many people who are permanently on welfare and own a home, too. Listen, part of being a homeowner is paying property taxes. If you can't pay them, then it is your responsibility to sell your home and rent one, so that you don't have to pay taxes directly. That might sound harsh, but it's life. Owning a home is not a right, contrary to what some folks might believe...it's a privilege that requires sweat and cash. I rented apartments for all of my adult life, until I moved to Philadelphia, because it was what I could afford. The sob story is a nice touch, and we get that you've worked very hard to support your family while you've seen other people abuse the system...but it doesn't mean that every person who gets welfare, or lives in public housing, is a crook. It's great that you were able to do what you did for your family without needing help. Some people just aren't as perfect as you. Give them a break. Jeez.

But all of this is unnecessary, anyway, because it is my understanding that the majority of the delinquent property taxes are owed by absentee landowners, ie people who have abandoned houses, or empty lots, or who inherited homes and have chosen not to maintain them.

2014 susquehanna's picture

I try not to generalize so I

I try not to generalize so I can't agree with much of the low income housing comments. It's important to understand that there are many who need these services and there simply are not enough jobs for everyone. That being said, there are many who abuse the system who should be held accountable. The problem with any large bureaucratic program is enforcement. Like it or not, these welfare cheats have children which they won't provide for without the government gravy train.

The poor are always easy targets when we have economic issues. Keep one really big thing in mind. The poor did not create this current economic mess. It makes me movie theater angry that the bankers, politicians, brokers and other wealthy thugs are always given the free pass for screwing us over. They cost us far more than welfare cheats.

The rest of us have a little to think about as well. Many of us live beyond our means, consume far more resources than we should and don't participate in making our communities better. I know plenty who think that just showing up at a monthly neighborhood civic meeting is doing their part...it's not. You have to get involved, get your hands dirty and make a difference. I'm guilty of some of the above so I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. Just saying that we could all be doing more.

kdubs215's picture

lauraska wrote:netable

lauraska wrote:
netable wrote:

Does this also apply to those poor fortunate souls who live on welfare all their life and dont have the means to pay their property taxes?

Or is it just the ones who work 2 jobs to make ends meet and just cannot afford to pay their taxes and make the devastating decision of keeping their electric and gas on first and opt to have a lien put on their home, because they are too Proud to be a welfare drain

Are you serious? I don't know too many people who are permanently on welfare and own a home, too. Listen, part of being a homeowner is paying property taxes. If you can't pay them, then it is your responsibility to sell your home and rent one, so that you don't have to pay taxes directly. That might sound harsh, but it's life. Owning a home is not a right, contrary to what some folks might believe...it's a privilege that requires sweat and cash. I rented apartments for all of my adult life, until I moved to Philadelphia, because it was what I could afford. The sob story is a nice touch, and we get that you've worked very hard to support your family while you've seen other people abuse the system...but it doesn't mean that every person who gets welfare, or lives in public housing, is a crook. It's great that you were able to do what you did for your family without needing help. Some people just aren't as perfect as you. Give them a break. Jeez.

But all of this is unnecessary, anyway, because it is my understanding that the majority of the delinquent property taxes are owed by absentee landowners, ie people who have abandoned houses, or empty lots, or who inherited homes and have chosen not to maintain them.

Laura look around the fishtown/richmond and kensington area and you will find people who are on public assistance and own homes one way or another . I could put you in a room with ten people who live better than anyone on this site and they are on welfare and they will give a lesson on how to beat the system and how easy it is ....
KW ------@

jmminarik's picture

Trixie wrote: And why do

Trixie wrote:

And why do rich people have to have a big expensive money wasting Gala to give money. Why do we have to entertain and feed someone to get them to support a cause. JUST SHOW ME THE MONEY BITCH!!

The same reason why non-rich people need beef and beers, raffle tickets, baskets of cher, 50/50's, etc. The dollar range is all that really differs. I agree with you though. Except for the female dog reference. :-)