More on Library closing

Spiral's picture

Interesting front page of the Philly metro. There is an article about taking the Library closing fight to court. Right next to this article, which talks about Nutter's plan to close the libraries to save $8 million there is another article about renovations being made to Dillworth Square (City Hall Area) to include a new Cafe and ice skating rink to be completed by 2011. This project will cost $40 million dollars. That's equivelent to the cost of about 55 libraries.

http://philly.metro.us/

roma258's picture

To be fair, the Dilworth

To be fair, the Dilworth Square project is being proposed by the Center City District, not the city itself. And the $40 million dollar figure is the total cost, not how much it'll cost the city. I think it could actually be a money maker if they rent the renovated plaza for various events. It doesn't excuse how poorly they've handled the library closing, but that's a whole separate issue.

dan's picture

Doesn't closing the

Doesn't closing the libraries (allegedly) save $8M/year?

I don't support closing our library, but I think you have to be careful about comparing one-time costs to annual costs.

They're not saying the Dilworth Plaza work will cost $40M/year - but $40M total.

So that money would keep the 11 libraries open for 5 more years - not 55 libraries indefinitely.

Then again, if you put that $40M in a fund earning 4%, it would produce $1.6/year which could keep 2 or 3 of those 11 libraries open indefinitely.

karp's picture

the 850 million in the red

the 850 million in the red for the city is a 5 year budget I believe. Does anyone know if the 8 million saved for closing the libraries is yearly or for the five years?

Even if it is 8 million for 5 years, that is still only 5% of the total in the red. I don't see how that is worth it.

frankdatank's picture

Nice article and

Nice article and congratulations on the addition. I think that some people around here need to recognize that budget cuts are indeed, necessary, and a part of life today. I, of course, didn't vote for Nutter, but he doesn't have a choice. He inherited the past administration's problems ( I never voted for Street either). I despise the fact that the library and fire engine may go and sympathize for the employees affected by the cuts. As inconvenient as it may be, there is a branch not that far away that residents will have to use. Oh-blah-dee-oh-blah-da life goes on and expect more cuts to come in the future.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

frankdatank wrote:Nice

frankdatank wrote:

Nice article and congratulations on the addition. I think that some people around here need to recognize that budget cuts are indeed, necessary, and a part of life today. I, of course, didn't vote for Nutter, but he doesn't have a choice. He inherited the past administration's problems ( I never voted for Street either). I despise the fact that the library and fire engine may go and sympathize for the employees affected by the cuts. As inconvenient as it may be, there is a branch not that far away that residents will have to use. Oh-blah-dee-oh-blah-da life goes on and expect more cuts to come in the future.

And, what branch would that be? Front & Dauphin or Sixth & Girard? Sorry, my kids are sure has hell not walking to either one of them. I have not met one person who said they would go to either library because of safety issues.

It's been said over and over by many a person and many a group, cut the hours across the board on all libraries and you will be able to keep the 11 open.

Since our area's city services is being cut more than other parts of the city; does this mean we will see lower property taxes or lower city wage tax?

athrahans's picture

FWIW, there is a branch in

FWIW, there is a branch in Port Richmond on Almond Street.
http://libwww.freelibrary.org/branches/branch.cfm?loc=RIC

It isn't closer geographically, but it is culturally.

NEW KENZO's picture

oh c'mon, nobody reads

oh c'mon, nobody reads anymore!