Fishtown Library Closing!!??!!

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Becky's picture

Not sure if it counts as a

Not sure if it counts as a source, but Philebrity is reporting that the Free Library director announced this news this morning. They also have some numbers to call:
http://www.philebrity.com/2008/11/06/fishtown-library-to-close-leaving-many-old-people-and-kids-with-nothing-but-dunkin-donuts/

jason's picture

this would be AWFUL!!!

this would be AWFUL!!!

roma258's picture

That is terrible news. I bet

That is terrible news. I bet there are plenty of people willing to donate money to keep the place open. I really hope there's some way to save it.

lilroja's picture

It is proposed to be one of

AM's picture

This is disgraceful, what is

This is disgraceful, what is the closest library for our kids to get to now?

Pure_Fishtown's picture

AM wrote:This is

AM wrote:

This is disgraceful, what is the closest library for our kids to get to now?

Sixth & Girard and Front & Dauphin. I know my kids aren't going to use the Free Library now because I want them safe.

Fishtown_Dave's picture

I called Siobhan Reardon's

I called Siobhan Reardon's office (Director of the Free Library of Philadelphia) at 215-686-5300. For what it's worth, they said that they were trying to schedule a community meeting in early December.

I tried calling Councilman Clarke's office at 215-686-3442, but I keep getting a busy signal.

nhb's picture

Per Mayor Nutter's speech,

Per Mayor Nutter's speech, they chose the libraries they did because of buidling conditions, utilization and distance to other libraries. But they are not taken into consideration the safety of the neighborhoods the other libraries are.

Ftown66's picture

Mayor Nutter sucks!

Mayor Nutter sucks!

jason's picture

I really wouldn't blame this

I really wouldn't blame this on Nutter.

Ftown66's picture

Pure_Fishtown wrote:AM

Pure_Fishtown wrote:
AM wrote:

This is disgraceful, what is the closest library for our kids to get to now?

Sixth & Girard and Front & Dauphin. I know my kids aren't going to use the Free Library now because I want them safe.

Are they Nuts? Who in their right minds would allow their kids to travel to these loacations? They would have to dodge prostitutes and crack dealers.

Ftown66's picture

jason wrote:I really

jason wrote:

I really wouldn't blame this on Nutter.

Well? Who would you blame it on?

dan's picture

Or maybe better yet, instead

Or maybe better yet, instead of looking to assign blame we could try to find solutions.

...just kidding! That would be hard work and less fun.

Off with their heads!

Pure_Fishtown's picture

Here's the link to the

Here's the link to the official rebalancing plan. You will also find maps for closures of fire engines, ladders, libraries and pools.

http://www.phila.gov/pdfs/Rebalancing_Plan_FY09_FY13_Five_Yr_Plan.pdf

Also, add to the list they are closing our pool!!!!!!!
Kids of all ages -- you cannot go to the library, you cannot cool off during the summer; so, what do you do during the long hot summer.

dan's picture

Pure_Fishtown wrote:Kids of

Pure_Fishtown wrote:

Kids of all ages -- you cannot go to the library, you cannot cool off during the summer; so, what do you do during the long hot summer.

rumble in the park!

kdubs215's picture

Nutter cant be blamed for

Nutter cant be blamed for this !!! He is cleaning up Streets mess .
I cant believe i let myself vote him in office just because he was rendells sidekick ... Hey atleast him and milton made out .....

newcomer's picture

Ftown66 wrote:Pure_Fishtown

Ftown66 wrote:
Pure_Fishtown wrote:
AM wrote:

This is disgraceful, what is the closest library for our kids to get to now?

Sixth & Girard and Front & Dauphin. I know my kids aren't going to use the Free Library now because I want them safe.

Are they Nuts? Who in their right minds would allow their kids to travel to these loacations? They would have to dodge prostitutes and crack dealers.

No need to get histrionic. I've never been to the branch at Front and Dauphin but the Rodriquez Library at 6th and Girard is fine. I don't recall having to dodge a single bullet, crack dealer or hooker.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

newcomer wrote:Ftown66

newcomer wrote:
Ftown66 wrote:
Pure_Fishtown wrote:
AM wrote:

This is disgraceful, what is the closest library for our kids to get to now?

Sixth & Girard and Front & Dauphin. I know my kids aren't going to use the Free Library now because I want them safe.

Are they Nuts? Who in their right minds would allow their kids to travel to these loacations? They would have to dodge prostitutes and crack dealers.

No need to get histrionic. I've never been to the branch at Front and Dauphin but the Rodriquez Library at 6th and Girard is fine. I don't recall having to dodge a single bullet, crack dealer or hooker.

I will not allow a 16 yr old girl and a 12 yr old boy to travel to either of these places without a police escort. Just a couple weeks ago a woman was raped in broad daylight on Girard Avenue.

Our city leaders did not give consideration to safety, they just looked at a map and said something like, "Well, that's not too far away."

nhb's picture

Are they Nuts? Who in their


Are they Nuts? Who in their right minds would allow their kids to travel to these loacations? They would have to dodge prostitutes and crack dealers.

No need to get histrionic. I've never been to the branch at Front and Dauphin but the Rodriquez Library at 6th and Girard is fine. I don't recall having to dodge a single bullet, crack dealer or hooker.

I will not allow a 16 yr old girl and a 12 yr old boy to travel to either of these places without a police escort. Just a couple weeks ago a woman was raped in broad daylight on Girard Avenue.

Our city leaders did not give consideration to safety, they just looked at a map and said something like, "Well, that's not too far away."


I agree totally agree.

jobber's picture

So in our neighborhood we

So in our neighborhood we are losing our pool, our library & the engine at our fire house...that really does not seem fair that our neighborhood is taking such a big hit.

lauraska's picture

jobber wrote:So in our

jobber wrote:

So in our neighborhood we are losing our pool, our library & the engine at our fire house...that really does not seem fair that our neighborhood is taking such a big hit.

Do we know for a fact that not one single neighborhood in the rest of the city is losing the same amount of services? Let's not start playing the martyr until we know for sure.

jbette01's picture

Indeed, hearing about all

Indeed, hearing about all the closings is no fun. It impacts the our lives in a very real way.

But I do not agree with pigeonholing our city leaders to all be simpltons. Of course they did MUCH more than simply look at a map. I have been hearing talks of consolidation among the free library branches has been in the works for a long time.

I had the opportunity to hear Mark Alan Hughes, the city's director of sustainability, speak yesterday. He answers directly to Nutter. He actually said the mayor was really very unhappy with the budget situation and that was not looking forward to the press conference.

Let's look at what Nutter didn't do: He didn't take police or firefighters off the streets. He did cut any school funding. Our trash is still gonna get picked up. He didn't ask us to pay more in taxes, he simply said we won't take a tax break.

We elected Nutter to undo the nonsense that Street did and then make things even better. Part of that is streamlining. I'm NOT saying that I am happy about the proposed closings. I am saying that we owe it to the city to take a step back and remember this administration had to make some VERY difficult choices.

Ftown66's picture

nhb wrote: Are they Nuts?

nhb wrote:

Are they Nuts? Who in their right minds would allow their kids to travel to these loacations? They would have to dodge prostitutes and crack dealers.

No need to get histrionic. I've never been to the branch at Front and Dauphin but the Rodriquez Library at 6th and Girard is fine. I don't recall having to dodge a single bullet, crack dealer or hooker.

I will not allow a 16 yr old girl and a 12 yr old boy to travel to either of these places without a police escort. Just a couple weeks ago a woman was raped in broad daylight on Girard Avenue.

Our city leaders did not give consideration to safety, they just looked at a map and said something like, "Well, that's not too far away."


I agree totally agree.
On front street there are prostitutes and crack dealers along front street in that area. And thats is the closes branch to my location if they close ours. As for 6th and girard it to far for many kids to travel by walking and it is a very bad area. They would need to be driven. And i made no mention of bullets in my original post!

brooke's picture

I was asked to post this by

I was asked to post this by Allison, the head librarian at the Fishtown library:

"Hi all,

I have sad news for you. The Director of the Free Library visited this morning to relay the news that the Fishtown Community Branch will be closing in January as part of the massive budget cuts hitting the city. At this point, the library will not be reducing hours and will not reopen. All of the technology and computers will be sent to other buildings, and the building itself will be given to city property. Layoffs will also be part of the budget cuts.

If you would like to express your outrage, please call Siobhan Reardon, Director of the Free Library of Philadelphia, at 215 686-5300, or Councilman Darrell Clarke at 215 686-3442."

AM's picture

lauraska wrote:jobber

lauraska wrote:
jobber wrote:

So in our neighborhood we are losing our pool, our library & the engine at our fire house...that really does not seem fair that our neighborhood is taking such a big hit.

Do we know for a fact that not one single neighborhood in the rest of the city is losing the same amount of services? Let's not start playing the martyr until we know for sure.

From the information provided on philly.com and accompanying links, it appears that no other area the size of ours is being hit to this extent. The Northeast seems to be taking a hard hit as far as rec centers are concerned.

Ftown66's picture

NNB i meant to rspond to

NNB i meant to rspond to newcomers quote and not your post.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

If you want to see for

If you want to see for yourself, here's the link to the official rebalancing plan. You will also find maps for closures of fire engines, ladders, libraries and pools.

http://www.phila.gov/pdfs/Rebalancing_Plan_FY09_FY13_Five_Yr_Plan.pdf

Also, add to the list they are closing our pool!!!!!!!

Kids of all ages -- you cannot go to the library, you cannot cool off during the summer; so, what do you do during the long hot summer.

lauraska's picture

I propose that we ask the

I propose that we ask the Mayor to raise our property taxes to pay for keeping the library, the pool, and the firehouse open.

jmminarik's picture

lauraska wrote:I propose

lauraska wrote:

I propose that we ask the Mayor to raise our property taxes to pay for keeping the library, the pool, and the firehouse open.

Awfully nice of you and michaelicious to volunteer to have your property taxes raised, but just donate the money so the people you sell to don't get screwed.