Correlation Between Watching Sexual Content on TV & Teen Pregnancy

brooke's picture

I used to read teen smut

I used to read teen smut books and magazines. I wonder how much I dodged a bullet there.

lauraska's picture

Wow, I watch the worst TV

Wow, I watch the worst TV shows that are out there...smutty, brainless, stupid...and I've never been pregnant yet. It's a miracle!

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brooke wrote:I used to read

brooke wrote:

I used to read teen smut books and magazines. I wonder how much I dodged a bullet there.

I wouldn't call Nancy Drew smut.

simmer's picture

Food for thought Global

Food for thought

Global incidence
Live births per 1000 women 15-19 years old, 2002:[8] Country Teenage birth rate
per 1000 women 15-19

South Korea 3
Netherlands 5
Tunisia 7
Australia 16
United Kingdom 20
Russia 30
United States 53
Indonesia 55
South Africa 66
Brazil 73
Bangladesh 117
Niger 233
Main article: Global incidence of teenage pregnancy
A report by Save the Children found that, annually, 13 million children are born to women under age 20 worldwide, more than 90% in developing countries. Complications of pregnancy and childbirth are the leading cause of mortality among women between the ages of 15 and 19 in such areas.[4] The highest rate of teenage pregnancy in the world is in sub-Saharan Africa, where women tend to marry at an early age.[2] In Niger, for example, 87% of women surveyed were married and 53% had given birth to a child before the age of 18.[9]

In the Indian subcontinent, early marriage sometimes means adolescent pregnancy, particularly in rural regions where the rate is much higher than it is in urbanized areas. The rate of early marriage and pregnancy has decreased sharply in Indonesia and Malaysia, although it remains relatively high. In the industrialized Asian nations such as South Korea and Singapore, teenage birth rates are among the lowest in the world.[10]

The overall trend in Europe since 1970 has been a decreasing total fertility rate, an increase in the age at which women experience their first birth, and a decrease in the number of births among teenagers.[citation needed] Most continental Western European countries have very low teenage birth rates. This is varyingly attributed to good sex education and high levels of contraceptive use (in the case of the Netherlands and Scandinavia), traditional values and social stigmatization (in the case of Italy and Spain) or both (in the case of Switzerland).[3]

The teenage birth rate in the United States is the highest in the developed world, and the teenage abortion rate is also high.[3] The U.S. teenage pregnancy rate was at a high in the 1950s and has decreased since then, although there has been an increase in births out of wedlock.[11] The teenage pregnancy rate decreased significantly in the 1990s; this decline manifested across all racial groups, although teenagers of African-American and Hispanic descent retain a higher rate, in comparison to that of European-Americans and Asian-Americans. The Guttmacher Institute attributed about 25% of the decline to abstinence and 75% to the effective use of contraceptives.[12] [13] However, as of 2006 the teenage birth rate began to rise once again for the first time in fourteen years.[14] This could imply that teen pregnancy rates are also on the rise, however the rise could also be due to other sources: a possible decrease in the number of abortions or a decrease in the number of miscarraiges, to name a few. The Canadian teenage birth has also trended towards a steady decline for both younger (15-17) and older (18-19) teens in the period between 1992-2002.[15]

As you all know who have read my posts on here before I am not a believer in media causing any social issues. You can show me report after report and I wont believe it. Its the parent's fault. I watched violence and sex on tv when I was young and I never knocked anyone up or hurt anyone who wasnt on the ice with me. Cause I had strong parental influence.

Niger has a high teen birth rate. I wonder how many Niger teens are watching sex and the city

dan's picture

simmer wrote:As you all know

simmer wrote:

As you all know who have read my posts on here before I am not a believer in media causing any social issues. You can show me report after report and I wont believe it.

If evidence doesn't impact your conclusions, there's no sense having a discussion.
(Which, on a side note, is one of the main reasons I've stopped debating the casino issue.)

Incidentally, the report only points out a correlation - not a causality.
My guess, however, would be that it's a feedback loop.

simmer's picture

dan wrote:simmer wrote:As

dan wrote:
simmer wrote:

As you all know who have read my posts on here before I am not a believer in media causing any social issues. You can show me report after report and I wont believe it.

If evidence doesn't impact your conclusions, there's no sense having a discussion.
(Which, on a side note, is one of the main reasons I've stopped debating the casino issue.)

Incidentally, the report only points out a correlation - not a causality.
My guess, however, would be that it's a feedback loop.

The evidence in this case is incomplete. In the article it states that no other social causes were put into place. It states that socioeconic issues such as parental influence or social status were factored. To me, that makes the entire study incomplete.
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simmer's picture

Heres the quote from the

Heres the quote from the article

But the study didn't adequately address other issues, such as self-esteem, family values and income, contends Elizabeth Schroeder, executive director of Answer, a teen sex education program based at Rutgers University.

dan's picture

simmer wrote:The evidence in

simmer wrote:

The evidence in this case is incomplete.

I agree.
But you said, "You can show me report after report and I wont believe it."

stein's picture

Intuitively it is not

Intuitively it is not surprising to me that women who derive a lot of pleasure/amusement from sexual situations would prefer racier television shows.

I suppose thinking that assumes that teen pregnancy rates are pretty closely tied to sexual liaison (haha) rates, but while factors such as education, access to birth control, family income, etc are probably equally as influential I don't think that is a terrible assumption.

edit: actually, i forgot to also mention that you have to assume that sex rates for teens is correlated to how much the teens enjoy the sex. That is probably also a reasonable assumption though I would be less sure of that than the correlation between sex rates and pregnancy rates.

To me this is similar to people who derive pleasure from the pain and suffering of others preferring violent video games and other media.

brooke's picture

Most of the girls I knew

Most of the girls I knew that had sex in their teens while still in high school weren't enjoying it--they did it because they thought it made them more popular/normal/because they felt it expected of them. I'm not saying they wouldn't have been into it if it were good but let's face it, teenage boys are more about quantity than quality.

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dan wrote:simmer wrote:The

dan wrote:
simmer wrote:

The evidence in this case is incomplete.

I agree.
But you said, "You can show me report after report and I wont believe it."

What I meant by that is most do not cover home life. If someone shows me that report then I might be convinced.
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stein wrote: edit: actually,

stein wrote:

edit: actually, i forgot to also mention that you have to assume that sex rates for teens is correlated to how much the teens enjoy the sex. That is probably also a reasonable assumption though I would be less sure of that than the correlation between sex rates and pregnancy rates.

Totally agree with Brooke on this one.

I was a full time health educator to at-risk teens for a while. From my perspective, neither sex is really able to handle the emotional implications of sex as a teenager, but girls become especially confused because they don't find it physically enjoyable either.

(Note: When boys hit puberty, their hormone levels remain the same for rest of their lives, making them more able to enjoy sex from a very young age. Girls, however, have hormone levels that vary monthly, a phenomenon that often does not occur with regularity until early adulthood, hency its harder for the body to find sex enjoyable for a myriad of reasons)

dan's picture

jbette - that was

jbette - that was brilliant!

Not only was it informed, thoughtful, and educational,
but MEGA bonus points for proper use of the word 'hency'.

stein's picture

ooh, forgot about this

ooh, forgot about this thread.

there is no reason to argue with brooke or jbette.

so instead i will back off that previous statement and suggest that instead it may be the case that one not need to enjoy the physical act of sex to find some pleasure/satisfaction/esteem/whatever in being sexually active, precisely for the reasons brooke mentioned.

considering that we are talking about the correlation between teen pregnancy and racy televisions shows instead of pornography (which could suggest that the draw for these women is the events surrounding the act rather than the act itself) maybe it isn't surprising at all?

george's picture

All the social ills of this

All the social ills of this world (including teen pregnancy, drug abuse, domestic violence, avarice, bestiality, regicide, and Menudo) can be traced back to 'Little House on the Prairie.' The long-running saga of the "Ingalls" was a cesspool of absolute filth.

On that note, see you guys next week. I'm headed back down to Florida for a few days with family (and 70,000 of my closest friends at the Dolphins game Sunday). Adios!

biggeo's picture

lauraska wrote:Wow, I watch

lauraska wrote:

Wow, I watch the worst TV shows that are out there...smutty, brainless, stupid...and I've never been pregnant yet. It's a miracle!

it takes two

jason's picture

I'm absolutely not in favor

I'm absolutely not in favor of censorship or ready to blame societies ills on TV.

however, I DO think that the way sexuality is portrayed on television is generally unhealthy and doesn't do any service to teenagers who are already confused, self-conscious, and overwhelmed with pressures from every direction.