Bikes locked onto Asa's Deli handrail

Paul's picture

I would like to inform all that may be concerned that Asa of Asa's Deli told me that he will begin impounding all bicycles left locked to his hand rail. He will release the bicycles back to the owners at some undetermined fee to the owners.

stilljes's picture

What a nice thing to

What a nice thing to do!

Maybe if it bothers him so much, he might considering installing a bike rack instead of stealing people's bikes and holding them for ransom?

dan's picture

Is this about people who

Is this about people who lock their bike up for a few minutes, or those who are leaving them there for days on end?

stein's picture

not that i am planning on

not that i am planning on locking my bike to Asa's deli anytime soon (i can walk to JBs without a problem), if i had my bike 'impounded' I would call the cops on the owners for theft (wouldn't be a separate crime to demand a ransom as well, or is that just humans?). I suspect the penalties for theft would be greater than whatever crime it is to lock up a bike to a private handrail.

netable's picture

First, I don't particular

First, I don't particular care for the Woman Owner with the Red Hair, It's a shame, her Husband is a doll =)

But I walked by a few weekends ago and I HAVE to sympathize with the Owners' People actually lifted their Bikes in the Air and had them Locked all over their Rail!! Not only is that completely inconsiderate but it is destroying private property. When I saw it, I thought to myself, Wow these Owners' are "better" people then me because I would be so pissed I would cut everylock and leave the bike's on the pavement!!

It wasn't just 1 or even 4 bikes, it was alot, and they were not just locked to a rail, they were lifted into the Air (it's a ramp with about 1/2 inch to edge) and hanging from a rail that they probably paid alot of money for.,

Just isn't fair!!!

netable's picture

stilljes wrote:What a nice

stilljes wrote:

What a nice thing to do!

Maybe if it bothers him so much, he might considering installing a bike rack instead of stealing people's bikes and holding them for ransom?

Just curious, Are you saying that he should spend additional money to install a bike rail, so that people don't destroy his property? Whats this, Extortion, Biker's style?

Lisa33's picture

stein wrote:I suspect the

stein wrote:

I suspect the penalties for theft would be greater than whatever crime it is to lock up a bike to a private handrail.

I agree.

Couldn't he try putting up a sign or something, rather than making threats?

netable's picture

Lisa33 wrote:stein wrote:I

Lisa33 wrote:
stein wrote:

I suspect the penalties for theft would be greater than whatever crime it is to lock up a bike to a private handrail.

I agree.

Couldn't he try putting up a sign or something, rather than making threats?

Maybe he just said it in the Heat of the Moment, the statement came from a 3rd party, so no one actually knows if "He" said it,

Sigh.........It's a shame, this Asa guy will be attacked and he didn't even post the threat

nhb's picture

stilljes wrote:What a nice

stilljes wrote:

What a nice thing to do!

Maybe if it bothers him so much, he might considering installing a bike rack instead of stealing people's bikes and holding them for ransom?

Are the people locking there bikes to his handrail customers? if so maybe he should consider a bike rack. But if not, then the people locking there bikes there should lock there bikes up elsewhere.

Kat's picture

If that bike that was locked

If that bike that was locked to my lightpost recently had been there more than one day, I would have cut the lock and put the bike in my alley. The owner would have had to contact me to get it back. (Nunzio would have been mad at me however). Although I wouldn't charge them anything, I think it is rude to do that to anothers property. I would never even think of doing that - I think it is just weird and rude. I don't go to this deli, but this person has a business - aren't there light poles etc around there that the riders can use to lock their bikes since it seems that these people are not patrons of the deli. If 20 people who were NOT patrons of the Memphis Taproom locked their bikes up there and left them, don't you think Brendan and Leigh would be upset? If these people are NOT paying customers of that deli, he has a right to be upset about it.

netable's picture

nhb wrote:stilljes

nhb wrote:
stilljes wrote:

What a nice thing to do!

Maybe if it bothers him so much, he might considering installing a bike rack instead of stealing people's bikes and holding them for ransom?

Are the people locking there bikes to his handrail customers? if so maybe he should consider a bike rack. But if not, then the people locking there bikes there should lock there bikes up elsewhere.

"I am NOT Genuinely a Nice Person, However I Genuinely try every day to be Nice" (and I definitely struggle)

No they are not Customers' they are JB and Murph Patrons'

nhb's picture

netable wrote:nhb

netable wrote:
nhb wrote:
stilljes wrote:

What a nice thing to do!

Maybe if it bothers him so much, he might considering installing a bike rack instead of stealing people's bikes and holding them for ransom?

Are the people locking there bikes to his handrail customers? if so maybe he should consider a bike rack. But if not, then the people locking there bikes there should lock there bikes up elsewhere.

"I am NOT Genuinely a Nice Person, However I Genuinely try every day to be Nice" (and I definitely struggle)

No they are not Customers' they are JB and Murph Patrons'

Well they all need to find somewhere else to lock up there bikes. This really sucks for the deli owner.

stein's picture

Quote:he has a right to be

Quote:

he has a right to be upset about it.

he most certainly has a right to be upset about it, and he is in the right those cyclists should be finding other places to lock up (the lack of public racks/poles to lock up in this city is a problem, however). What he doesn't have the right to do is steal bikes and/or hold them for ransom.

Kat's picture

stein wrote:Quote:he has a

stein wrote:
Quote:

he has a right to be upset about it.

he most certainly has a right to be upset about it, and he is in the right those cyclists should be finding other places to lock up (the lack of public racks/poles to lock up in this city is a problem, however). What he doesn't have the right to do is steal bikes and/or hold them for ransom.

You're right - the whole ransom thing is goofy - talk about setting yourself up for retribution.....not that all bike riders are like that or anything...look Stein, I am actually agreeing with you!

stein's picture

I suspect we agree on a lot

I suspect we agree on a lot of things!
and i assure you i don't hold it against anyone when I disagree with them.

netable's picture

stein wrote:Quote:he has a

stein wrote:
Quote:

he has a right to be upset about it.

he most certainly has a right to be upset about it, and he is in the right those cyclists should be finding other places to lock up (the lack of public racks/poles to lock up in this city is a problem, however). What he doesn't have the right to do is steal bikes and/or hold them for ransom.

Couldn't this be a case of "abandonment"
Or Maybe he wants to see the Owner in Person so that he can tell them that they damamged his Property and ask them how they will pay for it, by cash, check or charge...........

DNA's picture

netable wrote: No they are

netable wrote:

No they are not Customers' they are JB and Murph Patrons'

This is all due to those darn drunk beer bikers. This club is subversive and anti-American. They must be stopped.

Ftown66's picture

netable wrote:nhb

netable wrote:
nhb wrote:
stilljes wrote:

What a nice thing to do!

Maybe if it bothers him so much, he might considering installing a bike rack instead of stealing people's bikes and holding them for ransom?

Are the people locking there bikes to his handrail customers? if so maybe he should consider a bike rack. But if not, then the people locking there bikes there should lock there bikes up elsewhere.

"I am NOT Genuinely a Nice Person, However I Genuinely try every day to be Nice" (and I definitely struggle)

No they are not Customers' they are JB and Murph Patrons'

If this is the case why doesn't JB's and murphs put bike racks in front of their businesses if these are their customers. That would make more sense then what someone on here sugested for asa's to do?

george's picture

There's plenty of places to

There's plenty of places to lock bikes up (including the trolley stop which has been used without incident for years) but obviously it's not enough or some people just aren't looking in the right places. I'll bring it up tonight at work in any regard. Something additional could probably be done on the Frankford Ave. side, I'm guessing.

Pure_Fishtown's picture

Wouldn't leaving the bikes

Wouldn't leaving the bikes locked to his handrail be the same as parking on a lot that is only for customers? If you park on these lots, your car can be towed at YOUR expense.

netable's picture

Glad I don't Own a Business

Glad I don't Own a Business or a Rail, because I would be in altercations and Court all the time...........

It's about Common Courtesy, Consideration, Private Property, If they didn't abuse his private property, he wouldn't have to go to the extreme's of "kidnapping thier Bike's.....

Ya I know, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

netable's picture

george wrote:There's plenty

george wrote:

There's plenty of places to lock bikes up (including the trolley stop which has been used without incident for years) but obviously it's not enough or some people just aren't looking in the right places. I'll bring it up tonight at work in any regard. Something additional could probably be done on the Frankford Ave. side, I'm guessing.

Hope you didn't think I was meaning JB or Murph's is at Fault, Business Owners' have no Control over where Patrons lock their Bike's =)

Gilligan's picture

I'm guessing Paul, the

I'm guessing Paul, the original poster, may be Paul co-owner of JB's. Asa's owner probably approached him about it and he posted here so I don't think it was an irrational decision to threaten impounding the bikes - if he charges $5 to get them back, it will at least cover the cost of re-painting them. Instead of holding the bikes for ransom, he should just cut the locks (or use a bic pen cap - fits the kryptonite locks perfectly) and release the bikes to the hounds that will gladly steal them. There is plenty of bike parking, you might have to cross the street or walk a bit to find a stop sign, parking sign, tree, or the fancy art rack on Frankford. Jamming up his rail is rude and could be costly for him.

PattiMey's picture

Post signs than call towing

Post signs than call towing trucks. The drivers look bored sitting at Aramingo and York.

netable's picture

Gilligan wrote: he should

Gilligan wrote:

he should just cut the locks (or use a bic pen cap

I hope we don't have a Ring of Bike Theives on here =)

Ftown66's picture

Gilligan wrote:I'm guessing

Gilligan wrote:

I'm guessing Paul, the original poster, may be Paul co-owner of JB's. Asa's owner probably approached him about it and he posted here so I don't think it was an irrational decision to threaten impounding the bikes - if he charges $5 to get them back, it will at least cover the cost of re-painting them. Instead of holding the bikes for ransom, he should just cut the locks (or use a bic pen cap - fits the kryptonite locks perfectly) and release the bikes to the hounds that will gladly steal them. There is plenty of bike parking, you might have to cross the street or walk a bit to find a stop sign, parking sign, tree, or the fancy art rack on Frankford. Jamming up his rail is rude and could be costly for him.

I think your right! Just check his profile.

Ftown66's picture

If he does cut the locks

If he does cut the locks tell him to post it here. I could use a bike. Just save me one with handlebars. Not those stubs that I have seen on some.

PattiMey's picture

Pure_Fishtown wrote:Wouldn't

Pure_Fishtown wrote:

Wouldn't leaving the bikes locked to his handrail be the same as parking on a lot that is only for customers? If you park on these lots, your car can be towed at YOUR expense.

I missed your post but as you can see I agree.

netable's picture

Ftown66 wrote:Gilligan

Ftown66 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:

I'm guessing Paul, the original poster, may be Paul co-owner of JB's. Asa's owner probably approached him about it and he posted here so I don't think it was an irrational decision to threaten impounding the bikes - if he charges $5 to get them back, it will at least cover the cost of re-painting them. Instead of holding the bikes for ransom, he should just cut the locks (or use a bic pen cap - fits the kryptonite locks perfectly) and release the bikes to the hounds that will gladly steal them. There is plenty of bike parking, you might have to cross the street or walk a bit to find a stop sign, parking sign, tree, or the fancy art rack on Frankford. Jamming up his rail is rude and could be costly for him.

I think your right! Just check his profile.

Ummmm could Paul be an Imposter' his Profile says he has just been a member for 6 Hrs........

Ftown66's picture

netable wrote:Ftown66

netable wrote:
Ftown66 wrote:
Gilligan wrote:

I'm guessing Paul, the original poster, may be Paul co-owner of JB's. Asa's owner probably approached him about it and he posted here so I don't think it was an irrational decision to threaten impounding the bikes - if he charges $5 to get them back, it will at least cover the cost of re-painting them. Instead of holding the bikes for ransom, he should just cut the locks (or use a bic pen cap - fits the kryptonite locks perfectly) and release the bikes to the hounds that will gladly steal them. There is plenty of bike parking, you might have to cross the street or walk a bit to find a stop sign, parking sign, tree, or the fancy art rack on Frankford. Jamming up his rail is rude and could be costly for him.

I think your right! Just check his profile.

Ummmm could Paul be an Imposter' his Profile says he has just been a member for 6 Hrs........

I think he just created it for the purpose of this warning. Wouldn't george know since he works there. Right?

george's picture

netable wrote: Hope you

netable wrote:

Hope you didn't think I was meaning JB or Murph's is at Fault, Business Owners' have no Control over where Patrons lock their Bike's =)

No, I didn't take it that way at all and actually agree with the Deli owner (just not necessarily his proposed response).

Unfortunately, it's pretty much something we realistically can't do much about and neither bar is going to hire someone just to be the "bike police." That said, I'm certainly going to bring up the subject to the people that need to know and maybe we can address adding more bike racks or other options for folks.